Bigturc's Tie Bomber thread

First time ordering stuff from Plastruct here .. I was wondering what else on this build could be of use from them that I'm missing?.. I plan on ordering :

1x 91103 5x 0.030 styrene sheets (7"x12")
2x 2" HEMI HEAD FOR TB-200 VHH-200
2x 2" ELLIPTICAL HEAD FOR TB-200 VHE-200

NOTE I order 2 of each as I'll probably mess them up so better safe then sorry! ;)

What's with the lines on the exterior of the wing extensions? Are these plastruct parts too?


I think those are kit parts but are still to be found yet !

So you can also order some styrene rods from plastruct, cant remember the exact diameter, but just buy several diameters, they'll be handy in the future on other builds that wouldnt be a loss ! :)

You can also order a 0,5 mm and 1 mm styrene sheet, you'll probably need to build the kind of boxes at the wing roots and the the central box.
 
Guys, does anyone of you know anything about the Tamiya 88mm Gun Flak36/37 # MM-117A? I found this but have no idea, is that a complete kit to replace 35017/35283, or just parts or some rip off/bootleg?!

The box's side is the same, except that you have Model Rectifier Corp. under the Tamiya sign and the kit ID is on the bottom left corner KIT NO. MM-117A.

Can't find any info anywhere on this and I don't wanna end up buying useless kits ..
 
As I said earlier, any Tamiya 36/37 88mm will do the trick. Only the color of the plastic changes and sometimes there are figures included in the kit.
 
While I'm waiting on my kits ... Made with the help of Moska's amazing kit map and StudioScale.com!

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Anything to help!

Hey guys, a few questions .. I really tried to find an answer but just didn't come up with anything so ..

On the inner wings, what is the Karl part that is on each side of the center tube under the Hanomag pistons?

Also, I think I'm going crazy but .. we need 5x Karl for this, but I count 8 ribbed Karl parts on each inner wings + 4 half parts (I'm guessing). That makes 10 ribbed pieces per inner wings x 2 wings = 20. 2 per kits == 10 kits .. what am I missing?

Also I couldn't find the Harrier part in the kit scans .. I read its from the ejection rail .. but just couldn't find it.
 
Anything to help!

Hey guys, a few questions .. I really tried to find an answer but just didn't come up with anything so ..

On the inner wings, what is the Karl part that is on each side of the center tube under the Hanomag pistons?

Also, I think I'm going crazy but .. we need 5x Karl for this, but I count 8 ribbed Karl parts on each inner wings + 4 half parts (I'm guessing). That makes 10 ribbed pieces per inner wings x 2 wings = 20. 2 per kits == 10 kits .. what am I missing?

Also I couldn't find the Harrier part in the kit scans .. I read its from the ejection rail .. but just couldn't find it.

Hi, here's a couple of pics that may help you mate!.

For the inner wings you need 3 full & 1 half for the rear & 1 full & 1 half for the front of the Karl part. You need 5 Karls because you need a cut down part for the top of the cockpit tube, hence the 5 Karls.

The pic will help you with the Karl parts needed for those seen under the Hanomag pistons, 8 of these needed.


I think every issue of Harrier has the ejection seat rail part, mine was the MPC issue. I still have my original part which may be of help to you, PM me if you need this part!.
Cheers
Stu
 
Also, I think I'm going crazy but .. we need 5x Karl for this, but I count 8 ribbed Karl parts on each inner wings + 4 half parts (I'm guessing). That makes 10 ribbed pieces per inner wings x 2 wings = 20. 2 per kits == 10 kits .. what am I missing?

There are 4 ribbed parts in a kit !
 
The inner wing parts are parts nr 17 from the karl
The Hanomag pistons are fitted in the cut out of part nr.20/21.
These truck bearing wheel hang-up parts are slightly different so look closely for the correct shaped parts.
The Karl has 2 in each kit so you only need 10 Karls:lol
The Harrier part is the rectangular box that goes behind the seat.
You have to round the edges and beef it up with extra styrene on the side and underneat.

Also note that the Tie-Bomber's cockpit and torpedo plastruct tubes are not of the same lenght.Look closely at your reference(chronical book) and measure the difference is small but still noticable.

Anything to help!

Hey guys, a few questions .. I really tried to find an answer but just didn't come up with anything so ..

On the inner wings, what is the Karl part that is on each side of the center tube under the Hanomag pistons?

Also, I think I'm going crazy but .. we need 5x Karl for this, but I count 8 ribbed Karl parts on each inner wings + 4 half parts (I'm guessing). That makes 10 ribbed pieces per inner wings x 2 wings = 20. 2 per kits == 10 kits .. what am I missing?

Also I couldn't find the Harrier part in the kit scans .. I read its from the ejection rail .. but just couldn't find it.
 
Correction of the above stated!
Indeed there are 4 ribbed parts in each kit so you only need 5 Karl kits:cool
Make sure you measure the wing tube!
The offered starter kit here in the yunkyard for the Tie-bomber has not the correct tube thickness and the cockpit/torpedo plastruct tubes are of the same lenght which is not studio accurate:thumbsdown
The inner wing parts are parts nr 17 from the karl
The Hanomag pistons are fitted in the cut out of part nr.20/21.
These truck bearing wheel hang-up parts are slightly different so look closely for the correct shaped parts.
The Karl has 2 in each kit so you only need 10 Karls:lol
The Harrier part is the rectangular box that goes behind the seat.
You have to round the edges and beef it up with extra styrene on the side and underneat.

Also note that the Tie-Bomber's cockpit and torpedo plastruct tubes are not of the same lenght.Look closely at your reference(chronical book) and measure the difference is small but still noticable.
 
Correction of the above stated!
Indeed there are 4 ribbed parts in each kit so you only need 5 Karl kits:cool
Make sure you measure the wing tube!
The offered starter kit here in the yunkyard for the Tie-bomber has not the correct tube thickness and the cockpit/torpedo plastruct tubes are of the same lenght which is not studio accurate:thumbsdown

Why a thumbs down? You have made two posts here so far, and your second, is to have a pop at a respected members work? Pretty rude if you ask me.

lee
 
Agreed Lee .. thanks for the info Voodoo, but there's better way to bring information on the table. What length do you think that should be .. the info around has been of 88 or 88.5mm (I was guessing for both tubes).
 
Hi, here's a couple of pics that may help you mate!.

For the inner wings you need 3 full & 1 half for the rear & 1 full & 1 half for the front of the Karl part. You need 5 Karls because you need a cut down part for the top of the cockpit tube, hence the 5 Karls.

The pic will help you with the Karl parts needed for those seen under the Hanomag pistons, 8 of these needed.

I think every issue of Harrier has the ejection seat rail part, mine was the MPC issue. I still have my original part which may be of help to you, PM me if you need this part!.
Cheers
Stu

Yep, had figured that much from reference, although your pics are much clearer than any ref pics I have! Thanks for that .. now, you have a PM! :thumbsup

There are 4 ribbed parts in a kit !

For the life of me, I only see 2 in the kits .. the only thing I see now is that there's two F sprues in the kit?!?
http://www.studioscale.com/images/Kit Photos/Hasegawa/morser karl/chart.jpg

Thanks for posting those pics. May come in very handy one day.
Here's another usefull link:

http://www.x2creativos.com/pdf/tie_bomber.pdf

Hope it helps.

Of course it helps! It's been my best reference thus far on and again, I'd like to thank Moska for that .. it's fast becoming the one file everyone needs to have to build their Bomber. Hopefully, that and the kit/part number pics I'm doing will complete the deal!

Thanks again to everyone for the great help .. much appreciated!
 
You are right!
I should have entered this thread more humble.
Sorry for the thumbs down.
Lets start all over.
I am only talking millimeters here.
According to my meassurements the cockpit tube is 1mm.longer at the front.
The wing tube will be covered with styrene so therefore is fine.
Again sorry for my thumb down.
The starter kit is (y)thumbsupand it is great that it is availlable for all of us.I wish i had this kit when i built my Tie-bomber.

Agreed Lee .. thanks for the info Voodoo, but there's better way to bring information on the table. What length do you think that should be .. the info around has been of 88 or 88.5mm (I was guessing for both tubes).
 
Why, may i ask, will the wing tube be covered in styrene?

3/4 as far as im led to believe, is the correct measurement, so basically, EVERY bomber build, on the board, is now incorrect according to your knowledge?

I think only Julien, and Phil, used 20mm metric alloy for the wing tube, which is NOT noticable anyway.

Please Voodoo, embelish with your now "correct" measures, so we can all learn.

Al, sorry bro, not trying to pee on your thread, but, im quite intrigued on this new found information.

lee
 
Bigturc wrote:
Thanks everyone!!
I just realized I needed 2 Saturn .. Jee, must have been too excited to be around so many kits!


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Hey Al,

Did you order a second Saturn V yet? If not send me your addy. I picked one up for other parts and don't need these ones. Not sure what you need 2 of here, but I have extras of all these.

Evan
 
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Why, may i ask, will the wing tube be covered in styrene?

3/4 as far as im led to believe, is the correct measurement, so basically, EVERY bomber build, on the board, is now incorrect according to your knowledge?

I think only Julien, and Phil, used 20mm metric alloy for the wing tube, which is NOT noticable anyway.

Please Voodoo, embelish with your now "correct" measures, so we can all learn.

Al, sorry bro, not trying to pee on your thread, but, im quite intrigued on this new found information.

lee

Hey, if there's new information to put on the table, let's see it!! All good with me!

Hey Al,

Did you order a second Saturn V yet? If not send me your addy. I picked one up for other parts and don't need these ones. Not sure what you need 2 of here, but I have extras of all these.

Evan

Evan my brutha, you have a PM!:thumbsup
 
According to my measurements the allu.tube is 20mm.as well.
This is without the styrene(0,5mm).
Why the styrene was added i do not know.
All i can think of and don't pin me on that is adhesion of the kit parts or fitting thightness of the tube itself.
Probably not the last since the tube is atached to the center box.
When and if every Tie- Bomber on the board is built with a 3/4 measurement it must be the correct measurement then.
If the difference is not noticable..well....it must be right than.
These builts demand a lot of research,Take a lot of time to built and swallow huge amounts of cash.
These facts turned me in a rivet counter and a millimeter man.:lol

Why, may i ask, will the wing tube be covered in styrene?

3/4 as far as im led to believe, is the correct measurement, so basically, EVERY bomber build, on the board, is now incorrect according to your knowledge?

I think only Julien, and Phil, used 20mm metric alloy for the wing tube, which is NOT noticable anyway.

Please Voodoo, embelish with your now "correct" measures, so we can all learn.

Al, sorry bro, not trying to pee on your thread, but, im quite intrigued on this new found information.

lee
 
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