Old Ben Kenobi's Undershirt
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Isn’t it a “dickie” vs a full shirt?
I wonder if Lucasfilm Archives have any pictures out there.
You can see the full shirt (sleeves and all) in the first picture I posted. No dickie that I'm aware of has sleeves. Also notice the button is sewn on the inside as well to fit with George's OT design ethos of "no visible fasteners." You can tell because there would normally be a button hole on a shirt cuff of that style, and you can see a slight dimple where the stitches show through (indicating a button on the inside of the cuff).
The shirt collar is a "Cossack" style according to John Mollo and has a hook and eye closure. It opens just off center of the front of the chest, though the mannequin is dressed haphazardly in some shots, which is advantageous for us so we can see the placket.
Your costume looks great. Do you mind me asking what your sources for the shirt pattern are? Comparing the photos posted by Psab keel to your photos, your shirt looks spot on.
I'm having a shirt made by a local sewist myself. My only clear references were from a set of Etsy patterns I bought. And her design for the collar has it buttoning up the shoulder. A design clearly different from what I'm seeing in the photos of the actual costume. It's good to get multiple references.
So here's an "in the weeds" question. Does Old Ben wear his trousers tucked or untucked into his boots?
Good question. Both. During the shoot in Tunisia, for certain scenes he had them untucked, which was likely to help minimize heat where they could. Though some scenes they had them tucked if the inner silk robe had the potential to open and reveal the pants. In the last shot if you look can see the hem of the pants between the boot ankle and the hem of his silk robe.
During production on the soundstages in London? Tucked. As seen in this split second frame from the movie where the robe opens up as he walks up the platform to the tractor beam. The pants are clearly tucked into the boots here. Also of note, the black Vibram soles with lugs on the Frye Campus 14L boots. The modern offerings, and even the ones used for Empire and Jedi, had the basic stacked leather soles.
Different soles for the Frye boots for Empire and Jedi, but the same ANH costume worn by Guinness given his limited role.
During production on the soundstages in London? Tucked. As seen in this split second frame from the movie where the robe opens up as he walks up the platform to the tractor beam. The pants are clearly tucked into the boots here. Also of note, the black Vibram soles with lugs on the Frye Campus 14L boots. The modern offerings, and even the ones used for Empire and Jedi, had the basic stacked leather soles.
Different soles for the Frye boots for Empire and Jedi, but the same ANH costume worn by Guinness given his limited role.
Excellent detective work. So as most things in life, it can go either way. It just depends which version your portraying.
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Being that I'm in Southern California and attend Cons here, Arizona, and Utah having a full under-tunic for my Old Ben Kenobi cosplay was out of the question. I'm in my 60s and I don't do hot uncomfortable costumes. I don't do uncomfortable shoes or masks or wigs or prosthetics or helmets.
Having a bit of equestrian experience in my teens I was familiar with the so-called "ratcatcher" or equestrian dickie used under the riding jacket to simulate a high all-around Priest-like collar.
I turned to Etsy and found this seller who custom sews ratcatchers. She said making a plain brown one with no shirt placket to centre was no problem.
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Yes I know the original was a Cossack off-centre opening style, but I didn't want to make the order too complicated.
Another thing is that I decided on a kilt-length tunic rather than floor-length. (My outer robe is too light, I've dyed it much darker now.)
Having a bit of equestrian experience in my teens I was familiar with the so-called "ratcatcher" or equestrian dickie used under the riding jacket to simulate a high all-around Priest-like collar.
I turned to Etsy and found this seller who custom sews ratcatchers. She said making a plain brown one with no shirt placket to centre was no problem.
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Yes I know the original was a Cossack off-centre opening style, but I didn't want to make the order too complicated.
Another thing is that I decided on a kilt-length tunic rather than floor-length. (My outer robe is too light, I've dyed it much darker now.)
Great photo! I don't know yet how much cosplay/trooping is done in southern Idaho but summers can be brutal here. I have an inner tunic dickie for my jedi costume that i got from Far Far Away Outfitters on Etsy. They made my Old Ben costume as well.Being that I'm in Southern California and attend Cons here, Arizona, and Utah having a full under-tunic for my Old Ben Kenobi cosplay was out of the question. I'm in my 60s and I don't do hot uncomfortable costumes. I don't do uncomfortable shoes or masks or wigs or prosthetics or helmets.
Having a bit of equestrian experience in my teens I was familiar with the so-called "ratcatcher" or equestrian dickie used under the riding jacket to simulate a high all-around Priest-like collar.
I turned to Etsy and found this seller who custom sews ratcatchers. She said making a plain brown one with no shirt placket to centre was no problem.
sewhorsecrazy - Etsy
Shop Handmade show clothing and accessories by sewhorsecrazy located in Lafayette, Indiana. Smooth shipping! Has a history of shipping on time with tracking. Speedy replies! Has a history of replying to messages quickly. Rave reviews! Average review rating is 4.8 or higher
Yes I know the original was a Cossack off-centre opening style, but I didn't want to make the order too complicated.
Another thing is that I decided on a kilt-length tunic rather than floor-length. (My outer robe is too light, I've dyed it much darker now.)
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