davey77
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Kind of like saying Humphrey Bogart was always playing the same character... or Sean Connery, or Mel Gibson, Patrick Stewart or Brad Pitt... all based on what? The fact that they don't disguise their voices or because they played similar characters before?
no, kinda like saying heeeeeeeeres joker!
As far as not picturing a comic book character's facial expression or mannerisms... really? Do the panels really convey everything to you without inference? I doubt that. You are making a lot of decisions based on the few frames that you see, whether you know it or not.
i did say everything. i said expressions. you said expressions. of course mannerisms and tone etc need inferrence.
Besides that, different artists and different writers come at the characters different ways.
i refer you to what i said about taking tim burtons batman for what it is. one guys take on batman.
if you go back to my original post on the jack nicholson matter you'll see i compliment his character and performance. it just wasnt THE joker. and obviously it goes without saying that anything i write on the matter is my opinion, which people can agree (like munson) or disagree (like yourself). neither of us is wrong and no amount of pro-jack nicholson joker or assumptions about my reading habits, "wether i know it or not" is going to change this fact.
We seem to have built up in our heads what we believe these characters to be 100% based on what we've seen in the last 10 or 20 years. We forget that there have been 70 years of Batman and his rogues. We forget the major changes over the decades. We forget the different writer and artists' conceptions of the characters over the years.
speaking for others again. "we" havent built up that it should be based on the last 20 years. read the laughing fish from the 70s. still closer to ledger than nicholson in my opinion. and spot on hammil (which explains why they adapted it for the animated series)
There is no definitive Batman. There's a big convoluted story that really makes no sense if you read it from beginning to end. Thanks to DC there's several different universes and none of it matters anyway.
i said nolan comes CLOSE. and again, im expressing a viewpoint on am unquantifiable matter of taste, so it should be read that way. and i ended my last post with exactly the same point about dc and their different canons.