Charles Wallace/EDC Studios???

[Birdie]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(alienscollection.com @ Dec 28 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]1385898[/snapback]

What good is any community if it can't warn people about those out there who seek to take advantage and steal from us?

I'd like to think the community that is the rpf looks out for one another...
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So I'm allowed to warn people about all the problems I and others have had with Master Replicas?

Your crook has an ebay feedback of 99.1% Positive

When I bought from him 2-3 years ago before selling off all my props I received EVERYTHING I paid for.
But I should shut my mouth because "your friend" had a bad experience.

Look at Amazon.com and Ebay, you can see good reviews and you can see bad reviews.
The the buyer makes his choice. I've had great transactions from people with negative feedbacks.
In fact I just got a PSP game in the mail from a guy with 99.7% positive.

People here aren't treated equally.
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I knew this guy was a shill :rolleyes

And yes, you can bitch about MR as much as you want.

 

[Darth Vindus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Aegis159 @ Dec 28 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]1385916[/snapback]</div>

Since Vindus and others enjoy posting definitions I figured I would help them out..

Promote:
1. to help or encourage to exist or flourish; further: to promote world peace.
2. to advance in rank, dignity, position, etc. (opposed to demote).
3. Education. to put ahead to the next higher stage or grade of a course or series of classes.
4. to aid in organizing (business undertakings).
5. to encourage the sales, acceptance, etc., of (a product), esp. through advertising or other publicity.
6. Informal. to obtain (something) by cunning or trickery; wangle.


Please tell me where ANY of the posts are promoting EDC???
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"2. Post/thread content:
The following is NOT allowed to be included in any post/thread on the RPF:

f. discussion of banned and/or deactivated members, including posts regarding products and services offered by ex-members"

Should I start posting random definitions that have nothing to do with what we are talking about too?

 

[IronFist]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gigatron @ Dec 28 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]1385895[/snapback]

Here's the thing. These rules weren't written to be some legally-binding, law-filled mumbo-jumbo, documents. Just something to act as a guideline. I guess if they were interested in writing a 60-page, legally binding contract, that would've been one thing. We just wanted to stop people from promoting the services of banned members. Apparently, it wasn't that clear
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You're absolutely correct. It's not clear. I fully support not promoting banned members. But, that's not at all what it says, and I don't see how any reasonable person is supposed to figure that out for themselves from what's written there.

If that was their intent, I'd suggest an edit to the forum guidelines, along the lines of, "f. promotion of banned and/or deactivated members, including posts regarding products and services offered by ex-members". That opens up posters being able to "discuss" banned members in situations like this, without "promoting" their wares.

Does it also open up to interpretation what "promotion" is? Sure, maybe. But it definitely allows posts like this one originally was to continue without confusing new or inexperienced posters, or those who aren't privvy to the rules meaning what a group of people meant for them to mean, not what they actually say.
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Ok tell me in the hell you see ANYONE promoting EDC???? Just because we're discussing it (in a negative manner btw) does NOT mean we're promoting it.....[/b][/quote]

Whooooaaa. Cool your jets, fella. I didn't say anywhere that anyone was promoting EDC. Go back and re-read what I said, not what you think I said. What you're missing is that you're actually backing me up my opinion.

All I'm saying is that the rules say "no discussion". To anyone who saw that, a post saying "EDC ripped me off" is the same thing as "EDC rocks, buy his stuff." See how their both discussions? But, a small change that says "no promotion of banned members" suddenly changes things so that complaints against EDC are valid discussions because there's no promotion of banned members.

 

[Darth Vindus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Birdie @ Dec 28 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]1385917[/snapback]</div>

I knew this guy was a shill :rolleyes [/b]

Yeah I'm pretending I was a satisfied customer just like Betamin he's a shill too ban both of us because we don't agree with you.

And yes, you can bitch about MR as much as you want.
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Yet whenever I did I was bashed and was PMed to about my "behavior".
So you are wrong.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Aegis159 @ Dec 28 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]1385916[/snapback]</div>

Please tell me where ANY of the posts are promoting EDC???
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Oh and this.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(division 6 @ Dec 28 2006, 10:17 AM) [snapback]1385752[/snapback]</div>

I came across his Ebay listings last night for some Blade Runner items.

D6
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[Aegis159]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Vindus @ Dec 28 2006, 02:12 PM) [snapback]1385908[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(alienscollection.com @ Dec 28 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]1385898[/snapback]

What good is any community if it can't warn people about those out there who seek to take advantage and steal from us?

I'd like to think the community that is the rpf looks out for one another...
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So I'm allowed to warn people about all the problems I and others have had with Master Replicas?

Your crook has an ebay feedback of 99.1% Positive

When I bought from him 2-3 years ago before selling off all my props I received EVERYTHING I paid for.
But I should shut my mouth because "your friend" had a bad experience.

Look at Amazon.com and Ebay, you can see good reviews and you can see bad reviews.
The the buyer makes his choice. I've had great transactions from people with negative feedbacks.
In fact I just got a PSP game in the mail from a guy with 99.7% positive.

People here aren't treated equally.
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YES, MANY people have posted countless threads about problems with all kinds of sellers INCLUDING MR.

As for the "crook" in question, pretty much all of the illicit dealings I have heard of have been from the various prop boards out there rather than through a site that can hit him up for the money much more easily than those of us on the boards can. He's also stolen other people's work and profited from it. Also, he's used several different ebay accounts over the years to cover up some of the problems he's had.

Personally, he's batting 500 with any dealings I've had with him in the past (before I knew better).... I received one item, but never received another, and I never expect to get it since it's been several years now.

Whether you want to deal with him or not is up to you... good luck there

 

[androidandy]

Man this is like the shows that come on after the gameshows and news are over

Don't get so defensive guys. It seems everybody has some good points but may not be communicating them clearly. which has always been the curse of this medium. I think open discussion of issues anybody here has is exactly what these forums were designed for. However if a few people decide to discredit an honorable(or at least as honorable as they come...no one is perfect) member they could do so easily without proof. I think sticking to personal experiences and or refering to past posts should be fine, but name calling doesn't really help anybody. If I have overstepped my bounds I apologise.

As far as the story of Chip selling PKDs, I am working on the history of BR gun replicas and may publish a full story sometime(I hope), but Rick was selling kits to him before 2000 that Chip was building up and reselling with Rick's approval at that point. Then one day around 2001-02 Rick was looking to get out of the business and needed some cash so he sold his masters and molds to the PKD-2 to Chip. Chip only has the rights to make and sell PKD-2s and not any other FYI. Rick also had no other dealings with him other than business..

p.s..I am not calling Charles Wallace honorable...that could be against the rules. He may have been so at one time but it is a slippery slope once you step over to the "dark side" and an almost impossible climb back, so most don't bother.

 

[Darth Vindus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Aegis159 @ Dec 28 2006, 02:34 PM) [snapback]1385928[/snapback]</div>

He's also stolen other people's work and profited from it.[/b]

This is the first I've ever heard of that.
I've heard of props being sent late and I've heard of items not received but I've never heard of him copying other peoples work.
There have been threads accusing him of copying (for example) the Firefly ID badges, but Dr Slurpee proved his pics didn't match.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(androidandy @ Dec 28 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1385929[/snapback]</div>

Don't get so defensive guys. It seems everybody has some good points but may not be communicating them clearly. which has always been the curse of this medium. I think open discussion of issues anybody here has is exactly what these forums were designed for. However if a few people decide to discredit an honorable(or at least as honorable as they come...no one is perfect) member they could do so easily without proof. I think sticking to personal experiences and or refering to past posts should be fine, but name calling doesn't really help anybody. If I have overstepped my bounds I apologise.

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:thumbsup

 

[Gigatron]

Aegis, Birdie, let's just leave this thread alone. Apparently, some people need to be spoonfed common sense and have nothing else to do but nitpick guidelines to death and play word games.

I'm outta here (and for Vindus, that means I'm leaving this thread, not the RPF, not the internet, not the world, JUST THIS THREAD :thumbsup ).


-Fred

 

[Birdie]

Anyone defending EDC in friggin' 2006 is either a shill or an idiot. Which are you, dude?

The 'I got my stuff so I don't give a crap about you' argument wore out in about....2002?

That was when even Chip's little clique of fans started getting ripped off. Yup, there were a whole bunch of guys like you back in the day. Guys who Chip liked to keep sweet to defend his reputation on the RPF. No-one defends him now, on any board, 'cos they all got taken.

As for his Ebay account - yeah, he keeps a high feedback there 'cos he doesn't want his rip-offs visible on a public marketplace. EDC has been banned from every prop board on the net, so he's reliant on newbs on Ebay and his website.

We've seen the 'I'm different, I got my stuff' guys like you come and go, always with tail between legs when they get rooked by ole Chip. So you'll have to forgive my cynicism that there's still anyone so naive around this late in the day.

 

[Darth Vindus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Birdie @ Dec 28 2006, 03:05 PM) [snapback]1385941[/snapback]</div>

Anyone defending EDC in friggin' 2006 is either a shill or an idiot. Which are you, dude?[/b]

I must be in idiot.

The 'I got my stuff so I don't give a crap about you' argument wore out in about....2002?[/b]

But it's perfectly acceptable regarding other propmakers and license holders.

That was when even Chip's little clique of fans started getting ripped off. Yup, there were a whole bunch of guys like you back in the day. Guys who Chip liked to keep sweet to defend his reputation on the RPF. No-one defends him now, on any board, 'cos they all got taken.[/b]

No one defends them because they get attacked by people like you, AND THAT IS WHY I AM POSTING. Just like the Qmx threads I see people here getting attacked because their opinion isn't the norm and that sucks.

As for his Ebay account - yeah, he keeps a high feedback there 'cos he doesn't want his rip-offs visible on a public marketplace. EDC has been banned from every prop board on the net, so he's reliant on newbs on Ebay and his website.[/b]

What a criminal mastermind keeping his customers satisfied.

We've seen the 'I'm different, I got my stuff' guys like you come and go, always with tail between legs when they get rooked by ole Chip. So you'll have to forgive my cynicism that there's still anyone so naive around this late in the day.
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I haven't bought anything from him in years so I can't vouch for his current status as a seller.
But I could be like you and bash him over hearsay. Is that what you want?
Would you like me to say things I have no evidence of just because it is popular?

 

[ssdesigner]

So I'm allowed to warn people about all the problems I and others have had with Master Replicas?

Your crook has an ebay feedback of 99.1% Positive

When I bought from him 2-3 years ago before selling off all my props I received EVERYTHING I paid for.
But I should shut my mouth because "your friend" had a bad experience.

Look at Amazon.com and Ebay, you can see good reviews and you can see bad reviews.
The the buyer makes his choice. I've had great transactions from people with negative feedbacks.
In fact I just got a PSP game in the mail from a guy with 99.7% positive.

People here aren't treated equally.[/b]

I usually stay WAY clear of this type of stuff nowadays but I have to say a little something here....

I've been a member here since before HERE was the RPF, back in the old AOL days...so I have seen it all go down in regards to Chip.

Vindus, STOP man, just stop. You are digging yourself a HUGE hole here. EDC regardless of any Ebay feedback rating has stolen THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS from people here.

Any type of defending done on his part will get you NOWHERE here, period. I suggest you apologize and just drop it, but what do I know? I've only witnessed the countless rip-offs over the last 15 years. :rolleyes

-Ss

 

[Birdie]

What he said. I hope you get ripped off. Seriously. I'm done.

 

[Darth Vindus]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ssdesigner @ Dec 28 2006, 03:19 PM) [snapback]1385951[/snapback]</div>

So I'm allowed to warn people about all the problems I and others have had with Master Replicas?

Your crook has an ebay feedback of 99.1% Positive

When I bought from him 2-3 years ago before selling off all my props I received EVERYTHING I paid for.
But I should shut my mouth because "your friend" had a bad experience.

Look at Amazon.com and Ebay, you can see good reviews and you can see bad reviews.
The the buyer makes his choice. I've had great transactions from people with negative feedbacks.
In fact I just got a PSP game in the mail from a guy with 99.7% positive.

People here aren't treated equally.[/b]

I usually stay WAY clear of this type of stuff nowadays but I have to say a little something here....

I've been a member here since before HERE was the RPF, back in the old AOL days...so I have seen it all go down in regards to Chip.

Vindus, STOP man, just stop. You are digging yourself a HUGE hole here. EDC regardless of any Ebay feedback rating has stolen THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS from people here.

Any type of defending done on his part will get you NOWHERE here, period. I suggest you apologize and just drop it, but what do I know? I've only witnessed the countless rip-offs over the last 15 years. :rolleyes

-Ss
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Well I thank you for your advice and I hope you aren't offended if I don't choose to take it.

 

[NEKROFANATIC]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Vindus @ Dec 28 2006, 03:26 PM) [snapback]1385919[/snapback]</div>

The following is NOT allowed to be included in any post/thread on the RPF:

f. discussion of banned and/or deactivated members, products and services offered by ex-members"

Should I start posting random definitions that have nothing to do with what we are talking about too?
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hah...damn, I guess you forgot to hi-light the wording of 'products and services offered', so I did that for you... Selective hi-lighting, the last bastion of the weak argument...

"if it quacks like a duck..."

 

[Darth Vindus]

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hah...damn, I guess you forgot to hi-light the wording of 'products and services offered', so I did that for you... Selective hi-lighting, the last bastion of the weak argument...
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You highlights change nothing, the comma before "including" separates the additional points.
There was no selective highlighting, you just aren't understanding the sentence.

Also I did post where someone did indeed post what he was selling and where right now.

 

[tommin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(androidandy @ Dec 28 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]1385929[/snapback]</div>

As far as the story of Chip selling PKDs, I am working on the history of BR gun replicas and may publish a full story sometime(I hope), but Rick was selling kits to him before 2000 that Chip was building up and reselling with Rick's approval at that point. Then one day around 2001-02 Rick was looking to get out of the business and needed some cash so he sold his masters and molds to the PKD-2 to Chip. Chip only has the rights to make and sell PKD-2s and not any other FYI. Rick also had no other dealings with him other than business..[/b]

Thanks for the info, bud. I'll be looking forward to reading your full story. Please give me a heads up when it is ready. I can vaguely remember quite a few recasting accusations and was interested to know if those have merit, as well. If the guy is comfortable with ripping off the customer, certainly he's that much more comfortable doing the same with his business associates. That's only my impression, though.

 

[NEKROFANATIC]

posting where he is selling was meant as a warning to others considering an ebay purchase, not shilling for him. IN fact, it'd help this thread alot to post the link to that auction, totally acceptable.

We haven't even gone to the fact the you hi-jacked a thread. Damn, that contravenes the 'Code of Conduct " too:

3. Forum posting conduct:
Communicate with fellow members of the community in a respectful manner. Please also show all artists (including licensees) the respect their hard work deserves by expressing your opinions about individuals, companies or their products in a civil and constructive manner.

b. No trolling (making posts with the intent to stir up trouble to incite disruption) is allowed at the RPF. Posts of this nature will be edited by a Staff member and threads locked and moved if this occurs.

c. No hijacking threads (changing the intended topic of the original post) for any reason, including soliciting sales ("I want to buy one") in any thread outside of Interest or Sale threads in the Junkyard.

You, sir, are guilty of both.

Back ON TOPIC, John the best route for you now is to file a claim w/ your credit card company, as well as contact the police department in his area and file a complaint. Good luck and keep us informed.

BTW, if anyone has "THE video" please pm me.
cheers. Jason

 

[ssdesigner]

Well I thank you for your advice and I hope you aren't offended if I don't choose to take it.[/b]

I'm not offended by you not taking all of my advice, but I am offended when you post in a forum that contains REAL people, friends of mine in fact, that Chip has stolen thousands of dollars from, and you choose to make light of this fact by defending him.

-Ss

 

[Jedirick]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Vindus @ Dec 28 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]1385775[/snapback]

Code of Conduct
Welcome to the Replica Prop Forum.

Established in 1999, this community is a place where people can get together and talk props. The RPF has been, and remains, the "core" of online prop forums. The goal of the RPF is to have a fan, family, and licensee friendly place to discuss props. To meet this goal, all members who join our community are expected to abide by the following rules:

RPF Code of Conduct

Section A. General Posting Guidelines

1. RPF user accounts:
Each member may only have one account. If an account is suspended or deactivated for any reason, the user may not start a new account without the public permission of the current staff.

2. Post/thread content:
The following is NOT allowed to be included in any post/thread on the RPF:
a. pornography
b. sexism
c. racism
d. religion
e. politics
f. discussion of banned and/or deactivated members, including posts regarding products and services offered by ex-members
http://www.therpf.com/index.php?act=boardrules :angel
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Vindus, leave the moderating to the moderators. We are clearly not discussing the wares of a banned member here. A current member was ripped off by a vendor he found on-line. He wanted to know if anyone here was familiar with EDC. Obviously, some of us are.

It just happens to be a fact that EDC is a banned member here.

The rule you're referring to applies to threads like this: "EDC makes and sells great products and I suggest everyone buy from him", not the topic that was started.

-Fred
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Correcto mundo Fred.

What we want to avoid is someone extolling a current product of a banned member and therefore innocently creating possible sales and further rip-offs. Also don't allow unwarranted or unsubstantiated declaratiobns about banned members since they are not here to defend themselves. When it comes to the likes of C. Wallace, substantiation is not any longer a criteria. His record of ripoffs reads like a felon's yellow sheet. Sooner or later he will get caught in the cogs of due process and from there he will have little escape. However that will only happen if people continue to pursue complaints of fraud.

In addition we want to keep the public posting of exacting opersonal information about any scammer at minimum. offerring information bt PM or email is one thing, posting it publically could lead legally to neutralizing impact upon them.

Things that are publically know like websites and ebay seller names are fine. Street addresses, names of spouse or relatives, blood type, shoe size, finger nail clippings, locks of hair and phone numbers need to be exchanged privately.

 

[Wolvster1]

Man did THIS poor thread get derailed . :rolleyes

But, as you can see I do HOPE as a new member good ol'
Chip WON'T put you off from dealing with other guys on this Board..

ALLLLOT of good talent here, and many helpful folks .

Hope you can get your money back, since as I am sure you
have discoverd getting product probably won't happen...






















Oh, and Darth Vindus....