I hate NEW Krylon

[robn1]

What would be the recommended alternative for semi-flat black from other brands? Is there a rustoleum paint that looks just like it?

You can try Duplicolor Acrylic Lacquer (blue can) flat black. It has a hard finish
that takes handling well. Downside is it's brittle and cracks easy, so don't use
it on anything with a lot of flex.

Duplicolor Auto Spray (blue & white can) Universal Flat Black is good too, and less
brittle. Auto Spray is the small can; Truck, Van & SUV is the same stuff in larger cans.

 

[jason1976]

OOPs! I missed this thread an started another one looking for simi-flat black. :lol Man this sucks. I've tried so many brands, and so many say coat with in the fist hour, or 2, or after 7 days. I live in Ohio. I get like 3 day a year, when it's perfect out side o paint, that means, I can't wait 7 days or even 1 day, for stuff to be able to be recoated, and that also means I can't wait weeks for stuff I order online, to come in the mail.

I do like Dulicolor, but I haven't found anything that compares to Krylon simi-flat black. It just went on so darn smooth, and nice. Heck, one time, I needed to just tuch something up with it, so I sprayed it on a sock, and just kid, of dabbed, and wiped it on, with no real skill, and when it dried (minute later) you couldn't even tell were the old paint ended, and the new paint started, there were not streaks, cracks, wrinkles, sages, lumps, or anything. Man, that was good stuff. I can't believe more places, didn't carry it, when it was still made for the public. I had to look for years, before i finaly found it last year.

between the economy, and this change in formula, this very well could mark the end begining, of the end for krylon. Wich is extra bad here, because in less something has changed, they were an Ohio company, and we really can't aford, for another company to go away.

Hey come to think of it, it's funny that their company is based in a state, where it is usually too hot, too cold, and/or too humid to us there product. :lol

I wish someone would make a paint that could be used in temperatures from 20 to 100 and humidity from 20 to 100 as well. that dries in minutes, can be recoated anytime. and goes on smooth, even coats. And, who's spray is a little like an air brush, in that you can control the flow, from barely anything coming out, to great big waves of paint. (or at least a few pre-set, spots you could turn, and click the nozzle to.) Do that, and I would pay more per can, and I wouldn't care, if it make fire, shot from the sky.

 

[exoray]

I live in Ohio. I get like 3 day a year, when it's perfect out side o paint

It's not that bad I like in Illiniois... Most rattle can paints are good from about 60° to 90° and up to about 60% humidity... I would venture to say we have probably 100 days a year that fall into that range...

And if not you can still get by outside that range, a garage or even a temporary structure like a tent can extend painting options to almost all year with a little heat...

 

[Risu]

Is the duplicolor auto spray in the small can the stuff that is sold in walmarts? I bought a can of that years ago and didn't like it, but then again, I poured it on cuz I didn't have a clue how to spray paint back then.

 

[jason1976]

It's not that bad I like in Illiniois... Most rattle can paints are good from about 60° to 90° and up to about 60% humidity... I would venture to say we have probably 100 days a year that fall into that range...

And if not you can still get by outside that range, a garage or even a temporary structure like a tent can extend painting options to almost all year with a little heat...

I admit 3 days may have been an exaggeration , but here 100 days, would have been a great exaggeration in the other direction.

I live in an apartment, so my painting (if I fallow the rules) is limited to what I can step outside, and paint. So, no garage, workshop, or even a tent, heck,. I don't even have a basement, and I'm not alowed to have space heaters. (if it cought fire, it would endanger everyone in the biulding etc. etc. etc.)

And out side, about 5 to 7 months out of the year (depending on the year) it is 50, or way, bellow. (some times, way, way, bellow) And in the summer, we get like 95 and the humidity is the killer, because it's like 70% to 90%, and in my experience, that really does mess with spray can paint. You get mid, to late spring, and early fall most years. (before the leaves fall and get in to everything that is. ) And that's if it's not raining cats and dogs, witch around here, if it's on of those times of year, it usually is.

Man, if my family, and Girlfriend weren't here, I would have moved far away from here years ago. Ohio, weather sucks. The last 4 weeks, it's gone from being perfect for painting, temperature wise, but raining, at the beginning of each week, and then to the 40's or at best the 50's for the rest of the week. (up and down, up and down, like a darn roller coaster. )

 

[LizardJedi]

:lol

I've started using the really cheap stuff that Walmart has. It's like .93 a can. I never used it much as I thought, "Oh, this stuff is so cheap it must be crap." So I always used Krylon. Needless to say my Thunderfighter helmet was not happy after this change. Just for giggles I used the ceapest brand, and by God, it works really well!

I needed some cheap flat black (as a primer substitute) for something, and ended up getting 99 cent flat black no-name paint form Lowe's. Its the only black paint I have not had problems with!

 

[robn1]

Is the duplicolor auto spray in the small can the stuff that is sold in walmarts? I bought a can of that years ago and didn't like it, but then again, I poured it on cuz I didn't have a clue how to spray paint back then.

I don't recall seeing it in Walmart, but their stock varies between different areas.

This is the Acrylic lacquer, similar finish to Krylon Semi-flat, but more brittle.

The Auto Spray small can, Universal Flat Black is pretty smooth.
Probably the best sub for Krylon Semi-flat.

And The Truck, Van & SUV, same as the Auto in a bigger can.