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You missed my point. I didnt SAY people were complaining about lack of updates. It was a hypothetical example contrasting what they ARE complaing about....
Look......the point I trying to make is that no matter what, folks will complain.
So they missed a self imposed deadline...call the deadline police.
At least they deliver, having witnessed the ICONS fiasco first hand....
I'll take DELIVERY anyday. Especially when I know the REASON they do slide schedules, is that THEY are sticklers for quality.
I know not everyone was happy with the XWING, but they took an entire engineering prototype, and Sh#t canned it, and started over.
Thats dedication to your customers.
I see 90% of folks happy with everything they do....there is always a 10% who wont be.
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geez...I was just asking what the new release schedule was, I didn't think the discussion would come to this!
For the record: the reason I was asking is that the concept Vader looks so freaking good, I can't wait to know when the next piece is due so I can save accordingly. I for one would not want to see eFX go out of business, not when their product is as good as it is. If it takes another 12 months to get the next SW piece out, so be it. I have waited far longer for fan made pieces and not been disappointed.
But I sympathise with the point about the prospect of holding off on fan-made props in the interim as I have been keeping my powder dry on the X-Wing helmet for years now, a waiting time which seems completely justified on the quality evident in their Stormtrooper, Clonetrooper and now, concept Vader, Helmets.
For the record: the reason I was asking is that the concept Vader looks so freaking good, I can't wait to know when the next piece is due so I can save accordingly. I for one would not want to see eFX go out of business, not when their product is as good as it is. If it takes another 12 months to get the next SW piece out, so be it. I have waited far longer for fan made pieces and not been disappointed.
But I sympathise with the point about the prospect of holding off on fan-made props in the interim as I have been keeping my powder dry on the X-Wing helmet for years now, a waiting time which seems completely justified on the quality evident in their Stormtrooper, Clonetrooper and now, concept Vader, Helmets.
Brundlefly, no one in this thread, especially comments actually posted this year, has complained about efx's pricing, quality, business practices, or delivery. The comments have only been concerned with the fact that the announced release dates have been different from the actual release date. Most of these concerns would be moot if there was simply an announcement posted on the News page of their website, saying that the release of the announced products would be delayed.
I doubt that any of the posters seriously claims to be able to start a better licensed prop company. But it wouldn't surprise me if some folks here thought they could do a better job of throwing together three sentences for the News page of their website to announce a delay. In this case, flapping their lips/keys would be all that's needed.
No one here has suggested that they rush their products to market in order to meet an unrealistic deadline. I daresay most of us would be fine with a delay, even supportive, because we know it would mean a better product. We'd just be happier if we knew about the delay ahead of time.
It surprises me that you would assume that no one would ever express any dissatisfaction with efx unless they had some kind of hidden agenda or conspiratorial grudge due to being a former employee of some company that went out of business nearly a decade ago. To me, this came out of left field. I don't work in the prop business, so I have no idea if this kind of drama is normal. I don't think it's unusual for ordinary customers to be concerned when products aren't released when they're supposed to be. If Iron Man 2, or the new season of LOST, or the last Harry Potter book didn't come out when they were announced, and no announcement of the delay had been made, you can bet a lot of people would be wondering what was up.
I'm glad the efx company hasn't publicly embraced your shut-up-or-buy-your-props-somewhere-else attitude, because that would turn me off as a customer. It is a fact so obvious that it shouldn't need to be stated: the only reason any of us cares at all about release delays is because we WANT to give efx our money. Having seen their products so far, I am excited about their upcoming products. When I heard that they were working on the X-Wing helmet, I wrote an email to them just to express how excited I am. We're not hating on efx, we're fans of their work. If I didn't like efx's product, I wouldn't give a crap when they were released.
That's great to hear! I saw an early prototype at Comic-Con. My girlfriend and I have been getting Classic Battlestar gear together, and I am stoked about wearing that Viper helmet at Dragon*Con!
I totally agree! If their X-Wing helmet is the same level of quality as those other helmets, I know my wait will not have been in vain. I just hope it fits my oversized noggin. (Who am I kidding, I'd buy it whether it fit or not!)
Jinyo,
Well written intelligent response, and I respect your opinion. Nice to have you here and I look forward to more of your posts.
Your Join date is....2010?
Understand that, when you have been here as long as I have, you see alot of whining...and you get a little cynical.
My apologies if I came across as harsh. However, It was INTENTIONAL.
I am admittedely, and old Grumpy Resident of these parts.
(Insert Old Man in Bath robe yelling "GET OFF MY LAWN!" here)
Perhaps I read more into thread because I carry so much historical baggage from the 1000s of post that have come before it that always lead to the same place. If so, I would be the first laugh at myself.
Bashing the guy who is actually contributing to the hobby, in this case, EFX.
Im a proud supporter of EFX, as many know, forgive me if I'm over protective. I would also like to further apologize, that even though I tend to write in the spirit of half humor, its almost always taken to a negative extreme. Those who know me, know to take me with a grain of salt.
(see above inserted visual)
IF folks want to whine about delivery dates sliding, so be it.
If they had any clue as to what effort goes into these products, they would be more understanding.
Well written intelligent response, and I respect your opinion. Nice to have you here and I look forward to more of your posts.
Your Join date is....2010?
Understand that, when you have been here as long as I have, you see alot of whining...and you get a little cynical.
My apologies if I came across as harsh. However, It was INTENTIONAL.
I am admittedely, and old Grumpy Resident of these parts.
(Insert Old Man in Bath robe yelling "GET OFF MY LAWN!" here)
Perhaps I read more into thread because I carry so much historical baggage from the 1000s of post that have come before it that always lead to the same place. If so, I would be the first laugh at myself.
Bashing the guy who is actually contributing to the hobby, in this case, EFX.
Im a proud supporter of EFX, as many know, forgive me if I'm over protective. I would also like to further apologize, that even though I tend to write in the spirit of half humor, its almost always taken to a negative extreme. Those who know me, know to take me with a grain of salt.
(see above inserted visual)
IF folks want to whine about delivery dates sliding, so be it.
If they had any clue as to what effort goes into these products, they would be more understanding.
Left the Company as posted above to start her own catering biz.
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