Noted. lolFor the record, his shirt is brown..not black
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CopperRevan
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You're a good dude...I appreciate the conversation. I don't comment much anymore but i thought Batguy bringing up Luke's fathers lightsaber was a good topic. Thanks for baiting me in to the ST discussion again...lol,jk
VanPersie
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I disagree. We see it break, when it cuts out both Rey and Kylo it’s unseen in the blinding light, I can quite easily believe he neither saw what we did, or (bit more of a stretch), getting knocked unconcious had an effect.
It’s not important, nor something i’ll argue about, just wanted to jump in and give my view on that point.
VanPersie
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100% agree with this. They seem to have taken on a life of their own, rather than being an aspect of a character. Perhaps started with the daft Yoda vs Dooku saber fight in AoTC.
In the Ahsoka series I was intrigued when Ezra refused his old saber, but they didn’t seem to want to follow through with it and had him build a new one. Missed opportunity in my mind, to make a good point about how being a Jedi was more of your connection to the Force rather than how you swing a saber.
Joek3rr
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Something else I just thought of, when thinking of the myth of the lightsaber. In the context of the first film, "Father Skywalker's" lightsaber is totally like Excalibur. But the moment you find out that Vader and "Father Skywalker" are the same. And furthermore, when you find out that Obi-Wan just took the lightsaber. That mythic quality is gone in an instant.
The Force Awakens works within the context of the first film (and somewhat within the context of the Original Trilogy.) But doesn't work for a second with the context of the Prequels.
The Force Awakens works within the context of the first film (and somewhat within the context of the Original Trilogy.) But doesn't work for a second with the context of the Prequels.
Solo4114
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Just catching up on some stuff here, and I have to say taht I agree with the sort of "Uh....what?" aspects about Anakin/Luke's lightsabre, why it passes to Rey, and its symbolism in the sequel trilogy.
On initial watch of Ep. VII, I was fine with it. I mean, the whole thing was a retread in many ways, and an attempt to build connective tissue between the old stuff and this new setup. Having a lightsabre used by the two most powerful Jedi ever(?) have some kind of mystic Force connection to the new hero was...you know, fine, I guess for me. I wanted to see where it'd go.
When they split the sabre in half in TLJ, I was excited, as I was at the end of TLJ, because it felt like throwing down the gauntlet and really challenging the Star Wars franchise and fandom to break out of the "Let's just re-do the past" mold.
Aaaand then JJ did TROS and, well...yeah. An action and nostalgia rollercoaster with a lot of stuff that felt hastily thrown together, but good musical queues and performances to make you feel the feels when you're supposed to feel them, even if it's all legerdemain and unearned narratively. And that goes for the sabre, too, which is now somehow fixed?
I guess just file it in the "Somehow [an OT thing we thought was long gone] returned" bin.
On initial watch of Ep. VII, I was fine with it. I mean, the whole thing was a retread in many ways, and an attempt to build connective tissue between the old stuff and this new setup. Having a lightsabre used by the two most powerful Jedi ever(?) have some kind of mystic Force connection to the new hero was...you know, fine, I guess for me. I wanted to see where it'd go.
When they split the sabre in half in TLJ, I was excited, as I was at the end of TLJ, because it felt like throwing down the gauntlet and really challenging the Star Wars franchise and fandom to break out of the "Let's just re-do the past" mold.
Aaaand then JJ did TROS and, well...yeah. An action and nostalgia rollercoaster with a lot of stuff that felt hastily thrown together, but good musical queues and performances to make you feel the feels when you're supposed to feel them, even if it's all legerdemain and unearned narratively. And that goes for the sabre, too, which is now somehow fixed?
I guess just file it in the "Somehow [an OT thing we thought was long gone] returned" bin.
I always wondered why Luke would go investigate a meteor that hit near him on Hoth.
A meteor? Really Luke? You kinda deserved the encounter with the Wampa.
A meteor? Really Luke? You kinda deserved the encounter with the Wampa.
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it's just too good....
tgtiw
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I'm still confused as to why Kylo would announce that the saber belonged to him. By all indications, he should have no idea what Luke/Anakin's saber looked like, or that it had returned.
And why have it be the saber that apparition Luke used during the fight with Kylo. If the idea was that it would be some sort of distraction, seeing Luke with the saber, I imagine the creepy uncle saber that Luke tried to kill him with would have been more effective.
And why have it be the saber that apparition Luke used during the fight with Kylo. If the idea was that it would be some sort of distraction, seeing Luke with the saber, I imagine the creepy uncle saber that Luke tried to kill him with would have been more effective.
I'm guessing that it was for the reason of what ended up happening. They were making sure they were meteorite impacts and not drop pods impacting. Han didn't seem concerned, which would imply the command wasn't ordering them to check them out. So maybe Luke was just curious because it was a new environment.
According to Han, they were only looking for life readings and Luke knew it was a meteorite.
Not a big deal, but I always thought it was odd that in the SW universe, Luke would investigate something as common as a meteorite, especially when it was dangerously cold....and saying that, I would've stayed in the Wampas cave until someone came for me. Luke doesn't make the best decisions
Solo4114
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You know, I own the physical media copy of Ep. VII, and I absolutely never realized that it has a commentary track.
I'm not sure if listening to it would be insightful or enraging, nor whether it would confirm my existing opinions of JJ's storytelling acumen or undermine them.
Joek3rr
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I think a lot of people weren't aware of the commentary track, because it didn't come out with the initial release. It was done later for the 3D Collector's Edition. (But if you own the films digitally they've all been "upgraded" to the latest versions.)
And yeah, it's interesting....
Rawktrooper
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Luke went from one barren isolated world in Tatooine to another one in Hoth.. both at extreme temperature ranges.. i bet he saw things like that on both and was curious to compare or possibly just curious to get out and explore like his uncle never let him do. Just imagine if he would have explored and found that crater with the probe capsule.. what might have happened. cool idea for a "what if" story.
We saw in outtakes of Ep4 that he was watching the battle above with macrobinoculars.. i wonder if he saw the escape pod enter the atmosphere.. at some point.. or perhaps he was always looking up and seeing things like that.
We saw in outtakes of Ep4 that he was watching the battle above with macrobinoculars.. i wonder if he saw the escape pod enter the atmosphere.. at some point.. or perhaps he was always looking up and seeing things like that.
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