Munsters Rob Zombies new film

Master Boda said:
Would it not be better to be damned if you do,damned if you don’t by trying something new instead of remakes?
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Not necessarily, no. I don't think that remakes/reboots are necessarily a bad thing, they're a good way to introduce a new generation to an older IP that you may have loved when growing up. Granted, I do feel that it's best to not remake something that's any less than 20 - 30 years old, and it's also probably best to leave something beloved alone if only because it's difficult to impossible to equal, much less top, the original. But in general, I have no problems with the concept.
 
I haven't watched it yet, but pretty much every movie he's made after The Devil's Rejects has not been that great. He needs to go work on his next album. From what I've read though it sounds like Netflix tied his hands on most of this movie. I know he wanted to make it in black and white and they said no to that.
 
Riceball said:
I didn't think that it was that bad. I've definitely seen worse. My main issue with it was that it seemed like Rob Zombie couldn't decide whether it was supposed to be a parody or an homage. And the actors did a decent job with what they were given but were inconsistent. In some scenes, they felt spot on and just like the original actors while at other times it felt like they were trying too hard to be like the original cast members. Except for the actor that played Grandpa Munster, he was pretty consistent and really did a good job in channeling Al Lewi's Grandpa.

I think that the inherent problem with these sorts of remakes is trying to walk that fine line in making something original with the source material while at the same time trying to stay true to the original. Stay too faithful and it seems like a cheap copy of the original or a pointless remake. Stray too far from the original and it becomes too much of its own thing so why bother with the remake then? Damned if you, damned if you don't.
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You nailed it!
 
Riceball said:
Not necessarily, no. I don't think that remakes/reboots are necessarily a bad thing, they're a good way to introduce a new generation to an older IP that you may have loved when growing up. Granted, I do feel that it's best to not remake something that's any less than 20 - 30 years old, and it's also probably best to leave something beloved alone if only because it's difficult to impossible to equal, much less top, the original. But in general, I have no problems with the concept.
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One could make the claim why does the new generation need a remake/reboot. I can not speak for any new generation kid/kids other than my own.My daughter loves the original Clash of the Titans,Star Wars,Halloween(since we are in a Rob Zombie thread)The Mummy and dozens of others films better than the reboots. I have only handed her both copies said “check them out and let me know what you think” with no impute from me.Most of the movies are 40+ years old.

Beloved=$$$ to Hollywood nowadays as nostalgia is a great prostitute who works cheap.I don’t see evolving in mind nor respect given to the original IP’s in this cycle of reboot/remake era.
 
I'm sure I'm the minority but I watched until the end. I wasn't crazy about the transylvania origin story but once they arrived in Cali it felt like the Munsters to me. Like a pilot episode to start a series
 
Watched it last night. Seemed just as silly and goofy as the original series. Overall it was just ok to me.
 
I’m just going to make one post in this thread and I’m out as I don’t really have a dog in this fight.
I‘m of the opinion that Rob “Zombie” has kissed many butts for the privilege of being called a director. Why people give this hack money to produce garbage is beyond me.
 
Master Boda said:
One could make the claim why does the new generation need a remake/reboot. I can not speak for any new generation kid/kids other than my own.My daughter loves the original Clash of the Titans,Star Wars,Halloween(since we are in a Rob Zombie thread)The Mummy and dozens of others films better than the reboots. I have only handed her both copies said “check them out and let me know what you think” with no impute from me.Most of the movies are 40+ years old.

Beloved=$$$ to Hollywood nowadays as nostalgia is a great prostitute who works cheap.I don’t see evolving in mind nor respect given to the original IP’s in this cycle of reboot/remake era.
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Simple, because not every young person has an appreciation for older titles, they see the image quality, the costumes, the music, etc. and they get turned off and can't/won't watch it. Or they might be turned off simply by the ide of the age of the film/show and automatically dismiss it because of that. But present it in a brand new production with current actors, modern music, and so on they might see it and not only see it, fall in love with it and want to watch the original.

Another thing to note is that despite appearances, remakes/reboots are nothing new. Hollywood has been doing this since almost the beginning of the film industry. Stage plays were redone as movies, old silent films were remade into "talkies"> b&w films converted into color, and so on. Some well known classics like Gone with the Wind and the Wizard of Oz weren't even the first adaptations of those books to be made. So this current trend is hardly anything new and they're a relatively cheap and safe bet from an increasingly risk-adverse movie industry.
 
Riceball said:
Simple, because not every young person has an appreciation for older titles, they see the image quality, the costumes, the music, etc. and they get turned off and can't/won't watch it. Or they might be turned off simply by the ide of the age of the film/show and automatically dismiss it because of that. But present it in a brand new production with current actors, modern music, and so on they might see it and not only see it, fall in love with it and want to watch the original.

Another thing to note is that despite appearances, remakes/reboots are nothing new. Hollywood has been doing this since almost the beginning of the film industry. Stage plays were redone as movies, old silent films were remade into "talkies"> b&w films converted into color, and so on. Some well known classics like Gone with the Wind and the Wizard of Oz weren't even the first adaptations of those books to be made. So this current trend is hardly anything new and they're a relatively cheap and safe bet from an increasingly risk-adverse movie industry.
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Why cater to the young people’s ignorance?I could give 2 squirt’s of piss if the youth don’t like the image quality,costumes,music,etc.Since when is it all about generation narcissist,culture vandalism will never make them like the original as the have no respect for it.Remakes/reboots are also what Joseph Goebbels made to modernize a new young audience.

Humanity has been telling and retelling stories for along time,first around the fire as oral tales to cave paintings on so on.Sometimes when one adapt’s a tale you leave out or alter points to make way for new that might not have been the original author’s point.
 
In spite of the bad reviews, I bought a copy at Walmart. You know what? I didn't hate it. I even watched it with the commentary. It's clear Zombie thinks he made a much better film than he actually did, but who doesn't?

Dan Roebuck was the high point as the Count (technically not Grampa if there's no grand children).

Like most of Zombie's movies, you can tell what he's getting at, but he just can't stick the landing. There's no strong narrative thread, most of the jokes aren't as funny as you'd want them to be, and most of the characters are miscast, but I'd kind of like to see what he'd do with a sequel. After all, House of a Thousand Corpses was a bit of a miss but The Devil's Rejects was okay. But 3 From Hell... Well, maybe a sequel isn't such a good idea.
 
So from from what I've read here, and other places, and its 4.6 IMDB rating, is that its pretty cringe worthy.
If Rob Zombie keeps this trend up, it won't be long before Disney asks him to make the Star Wars Holiday Special part II.
CGI drug induced Carrie Fisher anyone.........while singing....
 
I broke down and watched it, if not mainly to see how bad it was

Maybe it was my lowered expectations, but I did enjoy parts of it. Other parts were terrible

The first 20 minutes or so were tough to get through. Nothing really seemed to click or reel you in and it really was a struggle not to turn it off

However, for me, once it got to Herman playing in a band in the club it seemed to pick up a bit.

It was almost like someone else stepped in and decided to get things moving finally

Once Herman meets Grandpa and through the dinner scene it started to evoke what was fun about the Munsters and things started clicking more

I could hear my daughter chuckling here and there. She found it both cringey and amusing at the same time

My wife on the other hand would walk in every now and then make comments like "who directed this? were they on crack?"

So over all it is a mess, but it still has it moments and as mentioned above, I think I can see what Rob Zombie was aiming for even if he didn't get it right
 
also, seeing as how Eddie was not in the show yet, but they introduced "Uncle" Gilbert who was a werewolf, this makes you wonder... :D

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