My MR OPS arrived...

I agree with Jez. MR is taking the cheap way out. I know what number I have. It is written on the box. I'd be happy to mail the box bar code back with proof of purchase for my #189 plaque. This is a major disappointment.

What Master Replicas is not actually saying but implying by their actions is:

Take it or leave it. Let's not focus on the fact that we didn't deliver what we sold you.

What's that about? I'd say it's this is unacceptable.

And what about the paint defects? I have ripples in my paint job. That is not acceptable. Since I received the helmet, I have left two messages for Amy and sent one email to customer service and still no reply.

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Jediwannabe, whatever you do, don't send customer care an email, you'll never hear from them. Instead, just get them on the phone and get the name of the person you speak to. This is just from personal experience.

If they're tooling up for generic plaques, how hard can it be to add a line that says #xxx? If you send an SASE containing the barcode from the box and a copy of the receipt, there is no way they shouldn't be able to send everyone the correct plaque and COA.

As much as I enjoy some of their products, customer care doesn't seem to be a priority with them anymore.

-Fred
 
Originally posted by Benkenove@Feb 4 2006, 02:47 AM
But my question is... WHERE THE HECK ARE THE PLAQUES THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BOXES ???

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I'd keep an eye out on E-Bay in 4-7 months. See if a ton of spec ops helmets from Malaysia mysteriously start appearing on there...I can't really see how the packing plant misses so many of these plaques unless entire shifts or something forgot to put them in.

So far everyone here seems to have lower numbers does anyone have mid to high numbers marked on thier boxes? I'd guess if it's every number after a certain point that they simply made an error and stopped putting them in. If it's a spotty every few numbers thing I'd guess someone was snagging them for use on bootlegs or something..

Just conjecture on my part.
 
This was a post that was over at Rebelscum by MRSWBryan. The SBU at Master Replicas.


OK, I am going to jump in on this thread. . . First, this is not Amy's fault (internally) and I do not think that it is fair that she is getting all of the grief for this issue. And trust me, Master Replicas knows how serious this problem is. We have literally spent the last week in meetings trying to determine a comprehensive plan to resolve this issue with the least amount of impact on our customers.

As we have always stated, we are going to be honest and forthcoming with our customers. This issue is more involved than any previous issues because this goes beyond QC. What has occurred might possibly have been beyond Master Replicas control.

So, here are the issues and questions that we were confronted with, and I am sure that after you understand these extenuating circumstances, you will agree that the plan that we have come up with is the best, however we understand not ideal, resolution to this.

First, this is not the first product that this vendor has made for Master Replicas, so they understand the importance of the numbering, plaques, collateral, etc.

1. Many of the helmets do not have the actual collateral envelope which includes the plaque, Certificate of Authenticity/Prop Story, warranty and other printed materials. This really threw us since it makes no sense. When we inspected the products they all had the envelope with all of the collateral, including the plaque. Our QC team in Asia documents every inspection with photos which shows the envelope. It would have been obvious if the envelope was missing. We have done a random inspection of a number of products in our warehouse in New Jersey and more than 50% of the product is missing the envelope. Therefore, it is our assumption that the collateral envelopes were removed, for some unknown reason,AFTER our inspection at the factory. This could have happened, since all the boxes would have to be resealed after inspection and, obviously, we do not think it was necessary to watch this task.

2. The shipping cartons have a numbered label on the outside which identifies the number of the plaque inside. So, if there was no plaque placed in the box, how does the factory know what label to place on the outside shipping carton?

3. We have reports that there are duplicate numbered labels on the shipping cartons. In some cases 2 people have the same numbered label on the outside of the box, one got a plaque and obviously, one did not. Then there is another case where 2 people had the same numbered label on the outside and NEITHER got a plaque.

4. We have discussed this with the management of the factory and they have no explanation for how this could have happened. When the factory was contacted, they claim that they do not have any "extra" plaques, which would be impossible. Master Replicas supplies the plaques to the factory, since it is imperative that each plaque be accounted for and that there is no duplication of numbers.

5. One of the explanations that the factory had given us is that this was the actions of some disgruntled employees. We are hoping that this is not the case since MR is very strict in selecting our manufacturing partners. Part of the qualification process is the compliance with our “Terms of Engagement” document. Master Replicas will only conduct business in a manner that reflects its values. When we identify our sourcing base in different cultures and countries, we take special care in only selecting “Business Partners” whose practices are compatible with our ethical standards and values. We define “Business Partners” as contractors and suppliers who provide labor and/or material utilized in the manufacture and finishing of our products. This understanding addresses issues such as wages and benefits, human rights, safety, child labor, etc.

Unfortunately, if this is the case (and I want to emphasize IF), MR is just as much a victim in this as our customers and our Authorized Retailers.

So now you have it . . . I am sure that you will agree that it would be impossible to go back and print new numbered plaques to send out to our customers. We do not know exactly how many plaques are missing, which numbers are missing and for those who got duplicate numbered labels on their shipping carton, who would get that number? I hope that you now understand that the only option is to issue a plaque that only has the total edition size.

MR understands its responsibility in this situation and will try to do everything in our power to correct this with our customers. As we have stated previously, if this does not resolve this issue to your satisfaction, please feel free to return your helmet to your Authorized Retailer. They have been instructed to accept returns without questions.

Once again we apologize for the inconvenience this has caused everyone.
 
Saying "Sorry" doesnt help anyone.

Most problems (including this one) can be solved by throwing a bit of money at them. MR need to reproduce all the plaques again in a new style making the old ones redundant.

It'll cost a few bucks but customers will be happy. Its not brain surgery.

Cheers

Jez
 
Originally posted by BingoBongo275@Feb 4 2006, 12:05 PM
Saying "Sorry" doesnt help anyone.

Most problems (including this one) can be solved by throwing a bit of money at them. MR need to reproduce all the plaques again in a new style making the old ones redundant.

It'll cost a few bucks but customers will be happy. Its not brain surgery.



How does one ensure people get the right numbers? How do they avoid duplicates?
 
Well, that is simple...

They must assign NEW numbers to the ones that has been sent... they have a list of every helmet sent, and who bought it... sijmlpy re-number then and problems solved...

I dont care If they give me another number... mine is 239, but is not a problem for me getting the 250, or 260, or 270, I DONT CARE, I just want my LIMITED EDITION NUMBERED ... becaus that is what we paid for...

And the resto of the helmets are stopped at theirs office, so they can assign the numbers easily...

Now MR say: "Ohhh, It´s not my fault... it´s not my fault..." What the hell ...

If MR need a QC department to control everything is perfect before send the replicas... why dont they simply create it in the USA...??in their own facilites ???

Guys, there is a "proverb" in my countrys that fits PERFECT to MR...

"EXCUSES ARE LIKE ASSES... EVERYBODY HAS ONE..."

Well done APPRENTICE REPLICAS ... , well done...
 
Originally posted by Benkenove@Feb 4 2006, 03:13 PM
Well, that is simple...

They must assign NEW numbers to the ones that has been sent... they have a list of every helmet sent, and who bought it... sijmlpy re-number then and problems solved...

I dont care If they give me another number... mine is 239, but is not a problem for me getting the 250, or 260, or 270, I DONT CARE, I just want my LIMITED EDITION NUMBERED ... becaus that is what we paid for...

And the resto of the helmets are stopped at theirs office, so they can assign the numbers easily...

Now MR say: "Ohhh, It´s not my fault... it´s not my fault..." What the hell ...

If MR need a QC department to control everything is perfect before send the replicas... why dont they simply create it in the USA...??in their own facilites ???

Guys, there is a "proverb" in my countrys that fits PERFECT to MR...

"EXCUSES ARE LIKE ASSES... EVERYBODY HAS ONE..."

Well done APPRENTICE REPLICAS ... , well done...
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you will get a number #750 total

but if you don't like it just send the helmet back
end of story.
 
BingoBongo is lucky. He's got #75. So when MR sends their stupid generic plaques all he has to do is scratch out the "0" and bam. Problem solved. :p

Ok, not funny.... sorry.
 
That is your point of view (Megatron)...

My point of vies is that I want the helmet I paid for, but is incomplete... Maybe for you a stupid, but not for me. There was supposed to be a numbered plaque, and it wont be, because their lack of professionality...

Dont tell me more excuses please, just good solutions... (not the easy way, "generic plaque, and go to bed boy..."

EDIT: spelling
 
Originally posted by Benkenove@Feb 4 2006, 03:50 PM
That is your point of view (Megatron)...

My point of vies is that I want the helmet I paid for, but is incomplete... Maybe for you a stupid, but not for me. There was supposed to be a numbered plaque, and it wont be, because their lack of professionality...

Dont tell me more excuses please, just good solutions... (not the easy way, "generic plaque, and go to bed boy..."

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then send it back and get your money and stop whinning
 
Originally posted by Megatron+Feb 4 2006, 08:00 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Megatron @ Feb 4 2006, 08:00 PM)</div>
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@Feb 4 2006, 03:50 PM
That is your point of view (Megatron)...

My point of vies is that I want the helmet I paid for, but is incomplete... Maybe for you a stupid, but not for me. There was supposed to be a numbered plaque, and it wont be, because their lack of professionality...

Dont tell me more excuses please, just good solutions... (not the easy way, "generic plaque, and go to bed boy..."

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then send it back and get your money and stop whinning
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Hey Megatron, it's Ben's thread, if he wants to whine, justifiably so, who are you to keep badgering. He already feels bad enough... Chill out dude. This is quite a crappy thing in my book that MR has done. First you had to bust your balls to get the OPs helmet ordered before the vendor ran out.............then MR completely and incompetantly blows the whole thing by omitting the plaques and COA's........and then they offer this lame crap about "sorry no plaques will be issued with your number on them to protect the sanctity of the lucky buyers who got their plaques like they were promised". That is utter BS and needs to be remedied. Jez offered a very easy solution to the plaque problem. Let's just see if MR has the nads to stand up and do what's right.
No offense Megatron, but you aren't offering a solution, you are suggesting a lose lose scenario. If he sends it back............he has zero chance of getting a replacement OPs helmet. MR can do better than this crap. They've done so in the past and they can do it again... The big question is: Will they??????

Dave :(
 
Thanks Dave...

Megatron, I wont send the helmet back and ask for a refund because I DONT WANT ...

I want the helmet I have, and I want the NUMBERED PAQUE it must have ... No more no less... I want what I paid, and I want what they sold me ... No more no less... If they cock it up, is their problem and their fault...Why should I recieved a bad solution or a less "value" (IMO) plaque because they ****** it up ???

Think about it, there are some guys will have a numbered plaque... and I wont have it ??? Am I worst than they ??? I paid the same... Why should I be happy with this ???

Jez posted a clear and easy solution... They dont want to do it ... why ??? hidden interested ???

Who will tell us that they havent made more than 750 helmets ??? They have confirmed that before... and now, with a generic plaque... I can assure you that there will be more than 750...

With a numbered plaque, I know that my helmet is #239, and they is no way there could be another #239... That is the main purpose of the LIMITED EDITION ...

Now you (Megatron) can say what you want, I wont send my helmet back, you want it, or not ... But I will ask for what I paid for, you can be sure of that too... You dont like it ?? is your problem, But I will try to do my best... And I want to make public my upset...
 
Originally posted by PnatheraGem@Feb 4 2006, 08:49 PM
BingoBongo is lucky. He's got #75. So when MR sends their stupid generic plaques all he has to do is scratch out the "0" and bam. Problem solved.  :p

Ok, not funny.... sorry.
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Actually that IS quite funny :lol :lol :lol

Seriously though, I dont mind what number I get. The reality is that MR just needs to put a little time and effort into solving this problem.

Cheers

Jez
 
So to recap on the current situation

You demand to have a number to indicate the LE status of the product.
You say that you don't care what number you recieve.
MR says that you will now all recieve #750.
You say outrageous, I don't want #750 as it some how means that more than 750 were made.

Meaning that if MR were the sort of company to be that unscrupulous then any number you recieve would be meaningless anyway.

MR suggests that you send it back an ask for a refund if you're still unhappy.
You say that you don't want to send it back because you bought it as an investment for your future retirement.

So even though your helmets are still a LE item you want MR to take a financial loss by letting you keep your helmets, offer you all another LE item for free and continue making future props so that you can sell it all later.

Not for future resell value.
 
RKW, perhaps you're missing the point.

The numbered plaque is part of the package we PAID for.

We demand it, because that is what we have been promised. It's not all that hard to understand... :confused
 
Originally posted by Gytheran@Feb 5 2006, 04:09 PM
RKW, perhaps you're missing the point.

The numbered plaque is part of the package we PAID for.

We demand it, because that is what we have been promised.  It's not all that hard to understand... :confused
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I think you're missing the point that the reason it cost more is because it's a retailer exclusive limited to only 750. This fact has not changed. You can't tell me that you spent $400 dollars solely for the plaque as all MR items come with a plaque.

I understand that it is fustrating that the plaque was missing but you will recieve a plaque eventually. The people who have most to gripe about are those helmets with defects.
 
ever buy a box of Cracker Jacks???? Half of the reason was for the Jacks themselves, the other half is for the mystery gift inside.... Opening up that envelope with the mystery number inside was the "gift" for me.... I was always excited to see what number I got, and MR has decided to deny me of that.

Yes the helmet is the most important thing, and I will love it if it ever arrives, but the individually numbered plaque is part of the purchase, and I would like that
 
You can't tell me that you spent $400 dollars solely for the plaque as all MR items come with a plaque.

What part of "paid for a package" don't you understand? :confused

How can you argue against AA for not delivering a product as originally promised, and come here and blast us for wanting what we paid for? :confused

Of course we'll either get over it or get a refund, but it doesn't make our position any less valid. We paid for a certain product and we did not and will not get it.
 
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