Ok, I think reallly screwed up this time...I watched Firefly. Help?

It's about Gorram Time. Welcome aboard. You'll love the movie, it has so many great moments, sad moments, and kick you in the nuts and pull out your heart moments. I saw it in the theater and...

The scene when the Reaver fleet pops out of the clouds and everything hits the fan, to me is one of the greatest, most Iconic movie moments ever.
 
after you finish serenity, and sufficient time has passed for proper mourning of the end of something magical... you can get your Nate fillion fix watching castle. he has referenced his old show in a few episodes in clever ways...
 
Yeah, it was a great show. I have to say, though, that I think the film itself is flawed. Not bad, just flawed. Such is the case with much of Whedon's stuff. I just find him rather predictable now.

What I'd really hope for is that they actually stop with all the backstory and "This is what happened in between Firefly and Serenity" stories and get down to a "Season 2/3" story the way they've done with Buffy and Angel.
 
I actually watched the movie first and have never seen the tv episodes. So, I'm backwards on this and look forward to seeing the show's episodes when I can get around to acquiring the dvd set. I'm looking forward to it, because I really liked the movie.
 
I just watched all the episodes and the movie for the first time over the last week and I have to chime in and say I love this stuff. It was a big experience for me. Why! WHY! Why did they only make one season of Firefly!?!:cry

lol, well I'm gonna cope with this sadness by putting together a Captain Mal costume and join the Houston Firefly crew. :D So I am happy about that.
 
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It'll get bad when you start skipping car payments to build an ALICE replica.

Great show, and once again we have Firefly to thank for more miracles....i.e. Christina Hendricks.

KK2
 
The thing about them not making more episodes:

They had a story to tell, and they told it pretty well. No story goes on forever.
Also, since the run was pretty limited and things wind up (more or less) intact, you can imagine that they will go on having adventures. They didn't have the crew all "move on" or "go their own way" - they ended it how it should have ended... tomorrow's another day.
 
Yeah, but the thing is, I felt like they set up the characters and the situations to go somewhere. Frankly, I felt that certain events that occur in Serenity really needed to be dealt with in the future to make them more...meaningful. Other events left open questions. Not critical ones, but open ones nonetheless.


On the other hand, knowing Joss Whedon's propensities in writing, I'm kind of glad that some things didn't have a chance to be "ruined" in future tales.


I'm trying to keep this as spoiler-free as possible for those who haven't seen the film, so I'll keep this vague, but here are my concerns:

- Political developments in Serenity are never followed up on. What happens in the wake of those events?


- The long-term effects of certain "crew changes" are never touched on, so ALL you get is a rather abrupt glossing over of them in the short-term. How does the crew respond to those changes? That stuff deserved to be dealt with.


- Characters introduced in the film are dealt with within the film's story...but could be developed further (and again, knowing Whedon, that's something that would've likely happened). Same goes for characters not appearing in the film but introduced in certain episodes and left hanging. These aren't as important as the above two points, but they're the kinds of things I'd expect to see in subsequent seasons.


- Interactions BETWEEN certain characters aren't resolved entirely. In other cases, they are....but again, knowing Joss, you gotta know where THAT'S all headed....
 
Yeah, but the thing is, I felt like they set up the characters and the situations to go somewhere. Frankly, I felt that certain events that occur in Serenity really needed to be dealt with in the future to make them more...meaningful. Other events left open questions. Not critical ones, but open ones nonetheless.


On the other hand, knowing Joss Whedon's propensities in writing, I'm kind of glad that some things didn't have a chance to be "ruined" in future tales.


I'm trying to keep this as spoiler-free as possible for those who haven't seen the film, so I'll keep this vague, but here are my concerns:

- Political developments in Serenity are never followed up on. What happens in the wake of those events?


- The long-term effects of certain "crew changes" are never touched on, so ALL you get is a rather abrupt glossing over of them in the short-term. How does the crew respond to those changes? That stuff deserved to be dealt with.


- Characters introduced in the film are dealt with within the film's story...but could be developed further (and again, knowing Whedon, that's something that would've likely happened). Same goes for characters not appearing in the film but introduced in certain episodes and left hanging. These aren't as important as the above two points, but they're the kinds of things I'd expect to see in subsequent seasons.


- Interactions BETWEEN certain characters aren't resolved entirely. In other cases, they are....but again, knowing Joss, you gotta know where THAT'S all headed....

Ok...so I just finished Senerity about 30 mins or so ago, and I think I agree with all of the above. I did enjoy the film but i do think that Solo hits some valid points. I'd also like to know what happned to Mal between Firefly and the BDM? He's REALLLLY kind of, well, the way Joss wanted him to be before Fox requested that he lighten up, and that feels almost like none of the growth and warmth Mal gained in the run of the series ever happned.

I also want to thank everybody here for their advice, and care during what has been a trying time. It's not easy to realise that I've been willfully ignoring a series like Firefly for this long, and also to come to terms that I found it late and long gone. But I did find it, and will no doubt burn holes into multiple copies of Firefly over the course of my life. As an old and very jaded STAR WARS fan I do also appreceate that I will never have to watch FIREFLY decend into that kind of hell, and that's a kindness.

Now, I just need a hat cunning enough for my head. It's coolish 'round these parts, and I could do with something warm.

John
 
I'd also like to know what happned to Mal between Firefly and the BDM? He's REALLLLY kind of, well, the way Joss wanted him to be before Fox requested that he lighten up, and that feels almost like none of the growth and warmth Mal gained in the run of the series ever happned.

Inara left. 'Nuff to make a man hard, when you care about someone like that, and they up and leave.
 
Nexus6: Thanks, I'll send her a wave.

Organic Mechanic: Yup...Inara. That'd about do it I guess. And as for Saffron, same here. She's one of the reasons to watch Mad Men.

John
 
Inara left. 'Nuff to make a man hard, when you care about someone like that, and they up and leave.

Yeah, the story is dealt with in Serenity - Those Left Behind. Worth checking out, since it sort of wraps up some stuff from the TV show that didn't get addressed in the film.


At any rate, I'm not saying the film's bad, but I think that it was wishful thinking to expect that it'd launch a whole new film franchise or TV series. The advertising was all wrong, and the film itself had a REALLY tough road ahead of it, doing double-duty by being meaningful for the long-time fans, but also stand-alone enough that new audiences could come to it. I'm sure it brought in some new fans, but it was never gonna be enough to really do the job. Probably would've worked better as a high-end direct-to-DVD product like the SG-1 films.
 
Mal's attitude hadnt changed much at all. He was still witty and aloof in the film. There was an obvious personal weight on his shoulders. Remember he is watching a recording of Inara leaving. Enough explanation even if someone hadnt seen the tv show. I hadnt before the film and I caught it right away.

I thought having every single person doing a complete 180 by the end of the film was brilliant. It really opens up the potential on a films sequel which would have brought the series back to tv for a couple seasons then finish it off with a final film.

There is an unofficial synopsis for the second film that surrounding the Blue Sun Corporation that controls everything, the crew taking refuge through Jayne's past, an uprising of Browncoats (including a split Alliance after the happenings in the first film) and the aforementioned 180 with the crews mentality. I believe this is what the rumors of the second film were based on back a few years ago now.
 
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