"Red" Dr. Horrible Costume - June, 2013: MUST READ Goggle Info! (Page 5)

[Uncle]

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I would be interested in a pair, if some are found.

And Ryu, I checked 2 years ago and the welding supply stores in Huntsville did not have any of the old style goggles (just trying to save you the frustration).

Of course this is a big if, but IF they are the right kind and IF he has more than one, I'd be MORE than happy to buy a pair. After you and Uncle get yours of course.

Ryu

 

[WarpedScale]

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I would be interested in a pair, if some are found.

And Ryu, I checked 2 years ago and the welding supply stores in Huntsville did not have any of the old style goggles (just trying to save you the frustration).

Ah I wouldn't start looking around here anyway. I've been too wrapped up in finishing other projects to start any new big searches. But IF they jut happened to be found, I'd jump all over them. I have a friend who would make a great Dr. Horrible.

Thanks for the help and consideration regardless, very nice of you.

Ryu

 

[TheNickFox]

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Man! Monday can't come soon enough. I'm trying not to get my hopes up regarding with the goggles. But the more time I have to wait, the more I start having faboyish thoughts like, "OMG! What if I can get a million of these goggles?! LOLZOR!"

I've been beginning to draft my coat pattern to help pass the time while I wait for confirmation. Now I just need to find a friend who will do my sewing for a beer or two...I'm so out of practice, I don't even trust myself to thread a machine properly.

I hope to have news on the goggles tomorrow for you guys! (and maybe some progress on my pattern)

-Nick

 

[Krull]

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Those gloves remind me one hell of a lot of the chem/bio suit gloves the military used..lemme look.

ETA:

The military chem suit gloves are pretty much what you have~but I know the ones in the screen shot as I'm sure I had and used some,thing is I dunno if they even make the things any more.

What it is is a cotton or cotton canvas glove with the hand part dipped in ether heavy PVC/rubber or just plain rubber,fairly common back a few years ago (I got mine at ether ACE or the local hardware store in the late 90's) but they've been replaced by more modern materials like latex and other more chem resistant stuff,the design has to go back to the 70's or even the late 60's.

 

[protokev DMD]

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ooo, good luck on the goggle search, would also love a pair

 

[TheNickFox]

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Okay, before I try in vain to do any more research on my own, I was wondering if anyone had any info on the Stun/Death Ray. It looks like it was a prop or toy gun that they flipped upside-down and modified with greeblies and whatnots. So was this a found item, or a prop from something else that they "borrowed" (Like the lab coat and the freeze ray)?

If I must I'll build it from scratch, because I think it would make a cool companion piece to the costume, but I'd like to save myself some work if it was, in fact, a found item.

Here are some pictures. (Flip them upside-down and tell me it doesn't look like a toy gun)

Thanks in advance for any info.

-Nick

 

[Uncle]

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The Death Ray was from Firefly episode 9, "Ariel". It was an Alliance Sonic Rifle.


Side note: Dr. Horrible 2 may be in the works:
http://www.whedonopolis.com/article.php?story=20100403171418153

 

[TheNickFox]

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...so basically that lab coat and gun are inseparable? And was I right that it is normally operated "upside-down."

Dr. Horrible might as well have been a spin-off of that episode, I mean it also had the Freeze Ray masquerading as something else, right?

And I had read all the other "it's being made" rumors (including reports of people who have read songs from it) but that one is a welcome change to the normal vaguery.

Thanks.

-Nick

 

[Uncle]

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I just ran across something I didn't know.

The guy that owns the house they used for the Dr's lair said that the final suit had dark red pants and black boots. You never see them on screen, so it may not matter to most, but I found it interesting.

Here's his blog:
It was on fire when I got here - Exhausted, but awesome

 

[TheNickFox]

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I just ran across something I didn't know.

The guy that owns the house they used for the Dr's lair said that the final suit had dark red pants and black boots. You never see them on screen, so it may not matter to most, but I found it interesting.

Here's his blog:
It was on fire when I got here - Exhausted, but awesome

Wow! Thanks for that...Good thing I didn't order the pants yet, otherwise I'd be sending them right back. Even if we can't see parts of the costume, I want to be as accurate as I can.

You don't think they would have been cruel enough to just dye his original pants when they dyed the lab coat, do you?

Sometimes proppin' ain't easy.

-Nick

 

[Zendragon]

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This will be awesome when you get it done.

 

[RogueSolo]

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You're almost making me want to make a Dr. Horrible costume to go with he Capt. Hammer I already have...

 

[TheNickFox]

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You're almost making me want to make a Dr. Horrible costume to go with he Capt. Hammer I already have...

Would you have to do battle with yourself then? :lol If so, I would love to see a video of that!

Also, no update on the goggles, yet. The guy was swamped today, so I told him just get back to me as soon as he could. I'll check in tomorrow and see what's what.

But even if that doesn't pan out, I have an awesome plan for some frankengoggles that should look almost identical. Sure it'll require the parts from 2-3 sets of goggles, but it's a small price to pay for perfection (or near perfection).

And thanks, ZenDragon, I know you of all people understand costuming because you resemble a celebrity. So you're support means a lot.

Hope to have some goggle news (good or bad) by tomorrow. After that I'll be away for nearly a month, so I'll continue to research, but probably won't have any real progress until mid-August. Why can't I just work on this costume full-time?!

-Nick

 

[TheNickFox]

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Well, I finally got word back from the supplier I was talking to. He cracked a box open and, sadly, the goggles are NOT the right ones. Oh well, guess I'll keep looking/give up and start work on my frankengoggles.

Sorry to everyone who may have gotten their hopes up. I'll keep tracking down every lead I have though, and I'll let you know what I find.

Edit: I'm waiting to hear back from a few companies regarding whether they have any goggles with the accurate head strap in stock. Without that, my frankengoggles are but a dream.

-Nick

 

[TheNickFox]

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So, now that the goggles seem temporarily out of reach, I've been working on transferring the pattern that I've been working on from hand drawn sketches into a full digitized pattern (That I can share with you guys when I'm done).

Just a note, I'm not a seamster by any stretch of the imagination, so when I draft a pattern I tend not to draw in seam allowances. I know I should, but I don't. Oh well.

Anyway, here's the flattened in-progress front bib section (which is all I've digitized so far) you'll see that I'm including an allowance for the bottom hem that is seen in the series as well as the backing strip for the open side of the bib.

Still needs some tweaks (Like straightening the sides since I don't think there's a flare in it), but I'd say it's not bad for a few sketches and a few hours of my time.

I'll do my best to keep it all in scale to the original, but I'm probably going to leave measurements up to each individual. Any preference for what format you want the pattern in when I'm done with it? I was thinking PDF or a Tiff.

-Nick

 

[Coz]

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Sterling work so far, man!

Straightened out the Death Ray / blaster images.
Firefly cap as posted by Uncle Dude:

Looks darn uncomfortable to hold:

Brightened this up a fair bit - greeblies & widgets & nurnies oh my:

C.

 

[TheNickFox]

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Thanks, Coz! I appreciate the compliment and the image straightening, it'll definitely help come construction time.

I got word back from a few goggle suppliers that I thought might have goggles with the proper elastic strap on it, and sadly those goggles are old models. Luckily, one of these companies seems intent on making a sale and is calling around to other companies to see if anyone else is still stocking them. Saves me some legwork in creating my frankengoggles.

Anyhoo, my pattern is almost done. About the only thing left is the neck. Let me know what you think of it, and what, if anything, needs to be changed. The one thing I keep questioning is whether I need to bring the back pleats in further.

Like I said before, I'm not a seamster, so I defer to anyone who is and their expertise.

I hope to have this pattern finished by tonight or tomorrow.

-Nick

 

[Risu]

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I don't know how much experience you've got in pattern making, so i might not know any better than you, but something seems off between the arm holes and the waist. If that back belt is the waist, the arm holes look way too big. And of course, darts take in fabric in a diamond shape, not a triangle. Looking good though.

Oh, and generally speaking, the back of a neck hole should be flatter and higher up. You might want to buy a cheap simplicity suit pattern and use it as a base for areas like the sleeves and neck. It's a real pain attaching sleeves properly without a professional pattern.

 

[TheNickFox]

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I don't know how much experience you've got in pattern making, so i might not know any better than you, but something seems off between the arm holes and the waist. If that back belt is the waist, the arm holes look way too big. And of course, darts take in fabric in a diamond shape, not a triangle. Looking good though.

The arms are HUGE I guess it's part of the whole on-size-fits-all lab coat idea. I've attached an image of one of the other original lab coats so you can see the size of them in comparison to the rest of the lab coat. The other thing is that the belt is slightly higher than the waist (at least from what I've seen. It comes in around the low-middle back.

And the back grey sections are pleats, not darts, hence the triangular shape, since they're just going to be folded over the red line. When I release the final version, though, I'll make sure to have notes on it to make sure their isn't any confusion.

Oh, and generally speaking, the back of a neck hole should be flatter and higher up. You might want to buy a cheap simplicity suit pattern and use it as a base for areas like the sleeves and neck. It's a real pain attaching sleeves properly without a professional pattern.

This is partly based on 3 patterns as well as images of the costume. I'll admit I have to check my proportions and measurements for the sleeves, but they should be relatively close as is. (I always cheat when making a pattern with sleeves by basing it on someone else's pattern)

Anyhoo! Take a look at one of the original costumes for the sleeves and their proportions and let me know if it still looks off.

EDIT: I'm fixing the neckline now. I had it correct in my hand-drawn pattern, but got lazy when doing the digitized one, and just matched the front. Good catch. Sometimes staring at a screen for too long makes you go a tad blind. That's why I like feedback.

EDIT 2: I've attached a picture of the updated rear neckline. It should be right now.

-Nick

 

[Risu]

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Wow, those sleeves are really short, huh? I never noticed they weren't full length. Then again, I also never noticed the coat was so long. Still though, I think the arm holes might be a TINY bit large. I only see one pleat on each side in the pictures, but with white fabric it's hard to see detail sometimes.