Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!

[Indy Magnoli]

Mechanismo, FYI: We are constantly adapting and updating our patterns (not just for this coat, but for many of our designs as we discover new details, etc). We don't get to do a proper photo shoot with each upgrade, as our main concern is getting the best garments out to our customers. We've actually got tons of measurements from an original coat, so if someone is serious about getting a nice upgraded coat, shoot us a message and we can discuss the details. We can then use this to do an updated photo shoot as well.

 

[Mechanismo]

Mechanismo, FYI: We are constantly adapting and updating our patterns (not just for this coat, but for many of our designs as we discover new details, etc). We don't get to do a proper photo shoot with each upgrade, as our main concern is getting the best garments out to our customers. We've actually got tons of measurements from an original coat, so if someone is serious about getting a nice upgraded coat, shoot us a message and we can discuss the details. We can then use this to do an updated photo shoot as well.

Hi and thanks for dropping a line, Indy Magnoli. Suffice to say -and I think I speak for everyone here- we would be absolutely over the moon to get a proper look at updated version of your BR 2049 coat soon and no doubt get us fired up about it. It’s also exciting to hear that you’ve obtained specific SA measurements from an original prop coat. As I pointed out in a previous post, currently no coat provider gets it 100% right (prompting some of us to explore more would-be accurate SA specs), so here’s hoping Magnoli can seize the opportunity to make this entire 'blind spot' a moot point going forward.

 

[Mechanismo]

It's the collar!

Hi everyone. So, jumping right in, I came across two photos of a guy sporting his Soul Revolver coat.
The positives: all in all, it looks pretty impressive, especially the color and that (acrylic?) sheen. Very nice.
The tailoring also looks very solid and the overall cut of the coat looks pretty great.

The drawbacks? Zero padding in the shoulder panels, that awful carpet-type shearling and the most inaccurate feature of all...the collar. I can't speak for its dimensions (which do not look correct either, but that's for another post) but, as with almost every K coat available, the placing/positioning of the collar is off the mark.

The problem? It's the same issue we see with Magnoli and WSL: the shorter side of the collar is erroneously connected to the lapel (instead of being completely separate) which also means that it incorrectly over-extends downwards as opposed to being further back, almost be flush with the neck. Crucially, it renders the end of the collar floppy, when it shouldn't be. This smart, snug, rigid collar side is one of things that makes K's coat so distinctive and stylish.

Some visuals:

Film coat:

Incorrect, overextend floppy collars

SA collar placement

Conclusion; shifting the collar by having a tailor remove it and reposition will certainly help, but a good start for coat providers would be to simply fix this issue by attaching the collar per the movie coat (as follows), that is to say, about an inch past the shoulder panel seam and separate from the lapel.

 

[johncarbon1991]

It's the collar!

Hi everyone. So, jumping right in, I came across two photos of a guy sporting his Soul Revolver coat.
The positives: all in all, it looks pretty impressive, especially the color and that (acrylic?) sheen. Very nice.
The tailoring also looks very solid and the overall cut of the coat looks pretty great.

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The drawbacks? Zero padding in the shoulder panels, that awful carpet-type shearling and the most inaccurate feature of all...the collar. I can't speak for its dimensions (which do not look correct either, but that's for another post) but, as with almost every K coat available, the placing/positioning of the collar is off the mark.

The problem? It's the same issue we see with Magnoli and WSL: the shorter side of the collar is erroneously connected to the lapel (instead of being completely separate) which also means that it incorrectly over-extends downwards as opposed to being further back, almost be flush with the neck. Crucially, it renders the end of the collar floppy, when it shouldn't be. This smart, snug, rigid collar side is one of things that makes K's coat so distinctive and stylish.

Some visuals:

Film coat:

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Incorrect, overextend floppy collars
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SA collar placement

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Conclusion; shifting the collar by having a tailor remove it and reposition will certainly help, but a good start for coat providers would be to simply fix this issue by attaching the collar per the movie coat (as follows), that is to say, about an inch past the shoulder panel seam and separate from the lapel.

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I have a jacket on order with them; I actually sent them screenshots of this thread with the images, and basically asked very nicely if they could do any of the changes to make the coat more accurate. We'll see what they say. I sort of doubt they'll alter it, but maybe.

 

[Mechanismo]

I have a jacket on order with them; I actually sent them screenshots of this thread with the images, and basically asked very nicely if they could do any of the changes to make the coat more accurate. We'll see what they say. I sort of doubt they'll alter it, but maybe.

At the very least you could ask them to re-position the collar per that last shot above. I mean, it does not get any clearer than that. Furthermore, I hope they realize that you're actually doing them a favor: by incorporating these SA specs, they'll actually be improving their product.

 

[Shahrooz]

I have a jacket on order with them; I actually sent them screenshots of this thread with the images, and basically asked very nicely if they could do any of the changes to make the coat more accurate. We'll see what they say. I sort of doubt they'll alter it, but maybe.

They won't, you're right.

 

[Mechanismo]

Quick follow up:

A side by side comparison of the original movie coat and my modified WSL with a custom collar:

 

[Indy Magnoli]

We've been tweaking our collar pattern a while to achieve this "side-of-the-neck" cut. Here is one we JUST finished for a client where the collar has been pushed back a bit more:

 

[Mechanismo]

We've been tweaking our collar pattern a while to achieve this "side-of-the-neck" cut. Here is one we JUST finished for a client where the collar has been pushed back a bit more:

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Thanks for the update Indy Magnoli.

Looking nice! That shorter collar side, now independent from the left lapel, is a huge improvement. That right lapel also appears to be larger, which is great to see too.

Slightly off topic: If I may, I’d like to constructively point something out where, to my eyes, there is clearly some room for improvement in terms of screen accuracy: the shoulder panels.

(note: I overlapped both these two pictures first, to make sure they were more or less to scale).
The movie coat has decidedly narrower -and slightly padded- shoulder panels as shown:

Aside from the different shape, dimensions and the padding, the Magnoli coat pictured on the left, also has an extra seam going down the middle of the shoulder panel. Has this issue also been addressed?

I’m assuming those oval shapes are hidden magnets, correct…? Although they are a little noticeable, something that size is no doubt a smart practical decision and a great way for the coat to to remain firmly closed. It’s a tradeoff. I also have trouble with the magnets on my custom coat sometimes.

Lastly, a question if I may regarding the collar: Is your new collar design slightly tapered or just a straight, rectangular piece that wraps around? IMHO, the the positioning, shape and dimensions of the collar is what's most critical to -at long last- getting this coat right.

Anyway, nice improvements and thanks again for sharing.

All the best,

Sebastian

 

[Indy Magnoli]

There is no additional seam on our shoulder piece and yes, the collar does have a more "funnel" shape to allow for comfortable wear around the face.

 

[Shahrooz]

At the very least you could ask them to re-position the collar per that last shot above. I mean, it does not get any clearer than that. Furthermore, I hope they realize that you're actually doing them a favor: by incorporating these SA specs, they'll actually be improving their product.

Soul Revolver's Blade Runner coat is top notch, I can attest to that and will post pictures once I've had the shearling replaced (in works as we speak/write). but they will not do any customization. In my mind, other than the shearling and possibly moving the collar (as Mechanismo astutely points out, an issue with EVERY Blade Runner coat), there isn't much to be done anyway.

 

[Mechanismo]

Soul Revolver looks good on may fronts, but it's not the coat we've all been waiting for by an stretch of the imagination. Sorry, but SR and other premium coat providers really must go 'the whole nine yards' in terms of detail and accuracy if they purport to offer a 'replica' of the film coat and also expect us to pay half a grand for it.

 

[Shahrooz]

Soul Revolver looks good on may fronts, but it's not coat we've all been waiting for by an stretch of the imagination. Sorry, but SR and other coat providers really need to go the whole nine yards in terms of detail and accuracy if they purport to offer a 'replica' of the film coat -and charge a half a grand to boot.

Here is the thing: Most of us haven't seen any of these coats. Some have seen and/or own one. As you know, I did A LOT of research on this and I am not a paid promoter or sponsor. Not even remotely. I had correspondence with owners of all three coat providers that are referred to in this thread ( I won't even acknowledge the 'filmjackets/usajackets type providers because..let's face it, they are charlatans). Spoke to more than few people who like some of us are really intrigued by the movie and the coat who owned two different coats. Usually it was the WSL and SR combo. Hands down every single person loved their SR and found it far superior to their other coat. Now, that's the standard (often unwaxed or poorly waxed WSL). The WSL with YOUR modifications looks amazing IF one can get WSL to do it. I am sorry to be so blunt, but based on the pictures I've seen and the comments from owners of Zlurpo and Magnoli coats, they are just no comparison to SR or WSL (as modified). SR because the quality is just superior and WSL because of the cost - even as modified, WSL is less than half the price of Magnoli and still far cheaper than Zurplo. And basically the same coat/material but with more accurate measurements and dimensions (based on your mods). Is any of them close enough? Nope, I give you that. We are still waiting for that coat that will be game changer here. Not sure it's coming, though. +

 

[joberg]

^^
You're right on many front; the good enough is certainly good for a certain number of people and the "Super Screen Accurate" one is the one to have for another number. That being said and since I followed this thread from the beginning, your work/research is excellent.
You made the effort to mention/get pics of what was out there for the fans. Details, details, details

 

[Mechanismo]

^^
You're right on many front; the good enough is certainly good for a certain number of people and the "Super Screen Accurate" one is the one to have for another number. That being said and since I followed this thread from the beginning, your work/research is excellent.
You made the effort to mention/get pics of what was out there for the fans. Details, details, details

Hi Joberg, I assume you're addressing me? (correct me if I'm wrong though!)

Thanks for your feedback. And yeah, I totally get that different people demand/expect varying degrees of accuracy when it comes to these things. Fair enough. I think it's safe to say, however, the folks on this forum (and RPF in general) are more likely to be the kind of fans who are interested in achieving the highest degree of screen accuracy.

I got into this discussion relatively late in the day -2020- but through hours of research, experimenting, custom specs, sourcing new shearlings, local tailors, etc, clearly, there are new and more accurate ways to achieve a greater degree of screen accuracy regarding this coat. I'm trying to see if Egon, with his mind-blowing Deckard coat replica, can throw his hat in the ring here and construct an Officer K coat from the ground up. I'm sure he'd do an amazing job and it would be a treat to see how he did it.

In the meantime, I've updated my Officer K Coat Providers chart with Magnoli's new improvements. Let’s see what a fan-tweaked Soul Revolver that’s coming down the pike brings to the table.

Cheers!

 

[hellboy12000]

Soul Revolver looks good on may fronts, but it's not the coat we've all been waiting for by an stretch of the imagination. Sorry, but SR and other premium coat providers really must go 'the whole nine yards' in terms of detail and accuracy if they purport to offer a 'replica' of the film coat and also expect us to pay half a grand for it.

Completely agree with this Mechanismo. As someone who owns the SR version and paid a fairly hefty price for it, more accuracy in its choice of construction would have been more welcomed to really qualify as a 'replica' of the original

 

[scottypavarotti]

For what it’s worth, my size L Soul Revolver jacket just arrived and fits me very well (to recap, I’m 183 cm, 77-78kg, 110cm chest (43inches) and wear 31-32 inch jeans. I certainly need the L in the shoulders but it fits pretty well with a sweater under it. So far a little creased from shipping but it’s obviously a good quality jacket and certainly very warm.
I’m arguably not obsessed with 100% screen accuracy, but it certainly gives the vibe of the screen coat and I’m really happy with it. I’ve got a spare couple of inches around the waist so I might get an additional fastener to tighten that up a bit.

 

[Shahrooz]

For what it’s worth, my size L Soul Revolver jacket just arrived and fits me very well (to recap, I’m 183 cm, 77-78kg, 110cm chest (43inches) and wear 31-32 inch jeans. I certainly need the L in the shoulders but it fits pretty well with a sweater under it. So far a little creased from shipping but it’s obviously a good quality jacket and certainly very warm.
I’m arguably not obsessed with 100% screen accuracy, but it certainly gives the vibe of the screen coat and I’m really happy with it. I’ve got a spare couple of inches around the waist so I might get an additional fastener to tighten that up a bit.View attachment 1484998

Congrats, scotty. Looks great. Mine is already at the tailor who is replacing the shearling for me. What I love about it is that just like the movie coat, its color appears to change depending on the lighting. I dont like the shearling. It's a better color than they initially had but still to carpet like.

 

[scottypavarotti]

Congrats, scotty. Looks great. Mine is already at the tailor who is replacing the shearling for me. What I love about it is that just like the movie coat, its color appears to change depending on the lighting. I dont like the shearling. It's a better color than they initially had but still to carpet like.

Thanks! I’ll be interested in seeing how that looks. I’d consider replacing the shearling maybe, although I think I’m going to spend a bit of time getting used to the jacket unmodified before I do anything drastic!

 

[Shahrooz]

I will share detailed pics of the coat as soon as I have it back. will need to add several magnets as well and Im having the collar moved, based on Mechanismo's detailed instructions to achieve more screen accuracy (as well as a better look, quite frankly).