vader45
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I think pop culture relevance is important, imo. A film is so popular it becomes part of our everyday life. It's remembered.
The Best Movies of All Time - How much do you agree??
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I think pop culture relevance is important, imo. A film is so popular it becomes part of our everyday life. It's remembered.
Wow—I never thought this would happen, but I’m now , apparently, old enough that it finally has...
I am now, officially, a Contrarian Cinematic Snob, based upon this “Best of ALL Time” list, since I can declare that I proudly disagree with the majority of their rankings. I thought this was the kind of thing that happened only to elitist art house movie cinephiles.
This feels awesome...I look down my nose at all around me and I ask that the common riff-raff, clinging to Black Panther as the best film ever, look upon me with envious eyes.
Away I go to purchase some Grey Poupon...
I am now, officially, a Contrarian Cinematic Snob, based upon this “Best of ALL Time” list, since I can declare that I proudly disagree with the majority of their rankings. I thought this was the kind of thing that happened only to elitist art house movie cinephiles.
This feels awesome...I look down my nose at all around me and I ask that the common riff-raff, clinging to Black Panther as the best film ever, look upon me with envious eyes.
Away I go to purchase some Grey Poupon...
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You ignorant snob. Why can't you just accept the fact that, over half of the best films of all time, came out in the last two years?!
. Thank God I was born just early enough to not be one
I don’t even consider Black Panther to be the best Marvel movie of all time, let alone the best movie of all time.
vader45
Sr Member
A millennial is 1998 and younger. FYI. People born right before or after the turn of the century. I'm 1992 and would never associate myself with them.
HeartBlade
Sr Member
Looks like there is a huge bias for recent movies and the algorithm is frankly kind of stupid.
I’m a fan of Black Panther but no way is it deserving of top 100. Story is pretty generic superhero beats bad guy and learns from experience, just set in Wakanda and the villain is a little more complex than I want power for the evils.
Endgame storywise was pretty mediocre. For what it represents (the culmination of a cinematic universe) and its impact on the film industry, it may be deserving of top 10 but as an objective film, not really.
same for Toy Story 4 and MI: Fallout.
Honestly, the fact that not even one classic like Gone with the Wind, Titanic, Star Wars, Terminator, Robocop, Blade Runner, and Total Recall arnt even in the top 20 of that top 100 of all time is bizzare.
the above mentioned movies have launched franchises, are cult classics that stood the test of time, or were amazing film blockbusters of their day. Any of these movies beats out Black Panther easily in terms of cultural relevance or story telling imo (not financial impact but the film industry has changed so much that gross isn’t an apples to apples comparison)
I’m a fan of Black Panther but no way is it deserving of top 100. Story is pretty generic superhero beats bad guy and learns from experience, just set in Wakanda and the villain is a little more complex than I want power for the evils.
Endgame storywise was pretty mediocre. For what it represents (the culmination of a cinematic universe) and its impact on the film industry, it may be deserving of top 10 but as an objective film, not really.
same for Toy Story 4 and MI: Fallout.
Honestly, the fact that not even one classic like Gone with the Wind, Titanic, Star Wars, Terminator, Robocop, Blade Runner, and Total Recall arnt even in the top 20 of that top 100 of all time is bizzare.
the above mentioned movies have launched franchises, are cult classics that stood the test of time, or were amazing film blockbusters of their day. Any of these movies beats out Black Panther easily in terms of cultural relevance or story telling imo (not financial impact but the film industry has changed so much that gross isn’t an apples to apples comparison)
What a ridiculous list! 15 of the top 20 movies of all time are from 2015 or newer? Seriously?!
No Star Wars, no Hitchcock, no Kurosawa, no Spielberg...etc
That list is trash. I don't understand people (kids) that don't know movies that are older than five years.
I grew up (in the 70's) watching films from the 20's 30's 40's 50's etc.
No Star Wars, no Hitchcock, no Kurosawa, no Spielberg...etc
That list is trash. I don't understand people (kids) that don't know movies that are older than five years.
I grew up (in the 70's) watching films from the 20's 30's 40's 50's etc.
Cephus
Master Member
I still watch movies from the 20's-50's. My wife and I went through the entire Universal Monsters catalog, starting with The Hunchback of Notre Dame, silent and black and white, from 1923. We also made it through all of the surviving Charlie Chan movies, starting with Behind That Curtain from 1929. It's why pretty much anything on modern social media is such a cesspool. It's made up of people who weren't around when they made good movies.
HeartBlade
Sr Member
Honestly also liked older movies like Weekend at Tiffany’s (Audrey Hepburn was a treasure).
this list does seem downright ignorant by ignoring even modern classics like Gladiator.
Sorry but Black Panther is really overrated in terms of cultural impact. It’s not the first black superhero movie (Blade which is also legitimately good with 2 having interesting villains), philosophy (remember the Matrix?), or evening as a general story.
this list does seem downright ignorant by ignoring even modern classics like Gladiator.
Sorry but Black Panther is really overrated in terms of cultural impact. It’s not the first black superhero movie (Blade which is also legitimately good with 2 having interesting villains), philosophy (remember the Matrix?), or evening as a general story.
OK, I have officially spent too much time on this stupid list.
The list is not based upon the Tomatometer scores, it's just made up.
Number 19: A Star is Born 2018. Critic score 90, Audience score79:
www.rottentomatoes.com
Schindler's List (not in the top 20). Critics score 97, Audience score 97:
www.rottentomatoes.com
/Mike drop.
The list is not based upon the Tomatometer scores, it's just made up.
Number 19: A Star is Born 2018. Critic score 90, Audience score79:
A Star Is Born (2018) | Rotten Tomatoes
Seasoned musician Jackson Maine discovers -- and falls in love with -- struggling artist Ally. She has just about given up on her dream to make it big as a singer until Jackson coaxes her into the spotlight. But even as Ally's career takes off, the personal side of their relationship is breaking...
www.rottentomatoes.com
Schindler's List (not in the top 20). Critics score 97, Audience score 97:
Schindler's List | Rotten Tomatoes
Businessman Oskar Schindler (Liam Neeson) arrives in Krakow in 1939, ready to make his fortune from World War II, which has just started. After joining the Nazi party primarily for political expediency, he staffs his factory with Jewish workers for similarly pragmatic reasons. When the SS begins...
www.rottentomatoes.com
/Mike drop.
To be fair, when I was growing up in the 1980’s and 1990’s, my list of the best movies of all time were all subjectively contemporary and would not be found on many all-time top 10 lists at the time: Goonies, The Last Starfighter, Star Trek II, The Empire Strikes Back, Willow, The Rocketeer, Star Trek: TMP, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Superman: The Movie, Gremlins, Batman, etc. None of my top movies, at the time, were older than 10 years old.
Of course, as I’ve grown older, and have enjoyed a wider variety of movies, my tastes have changed and broadened.
I think as the Rotten Tomatoes audience matures, this top 100 list will begin to shift as well.
Of course, as I’ve grown older, and have enjoyed a wider variety of movies, my tastes have changed and broadened.
I think as the Rotten Tomatoes audience matures, this top 100 list will begin to shift as well.
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Analyzer
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I think a lot of the difference is when looking at things with a critical eye you are looking for direction, production issues, acting, technic, style, story etc...
On the other hand, it is possibly to enjoy a movie and rank it highly based soley on a wow factor, or something you related to despite it being badly acted or written or filmed.
There are plenty of films that have oscar worthy everything, but just do not connect. So they tend to wind up with high critic scores. On the other hand, there are "popcorn" blockbusters that might be messes from a technical or artistic sense but you leave the theater thoroughly enjoying it
i.e it's like comparing Fine Art to your kid's art.
I am sure there are many parents who are more impressed and love their kids art more than some fine art because it is personal for them
It's one of the reason I do not pay attention to any of this stuff.
I might use it as a guideline to gauge if it is in the ballpark. If I see a big disparity in scores between critics and audience it usually tells me this is a "popcorn" flick or if the other way, this is an arty flick or similar
When the two are fairly in sync with each other is usually a good sign that it has more universal appeal, but again, I may not agree
If I like a franchise and want to see a movie, I will see it regardless of the score.
Also, half the time I watch a movie and then check out a score I just shake my head and wonder if I watched the same movie as these people.
I think the better criteria most people really want to know is
"How rewatchable is this film"?
"Can I bring my kids"?
"Is this a chick flick"?
"If I bring a date (or in my case my wife), will she enjoy it, or is this a dude fest film I should see with my brother or friends"?
"Is this better enjoyed with a group of people"?
"Do I need to have seen x prequel/sequel to follow what is going on"?
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