Norse Iron Man
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The Bill and Ted films are vastly under appreciated in my opinion. They are funny, insane, feel good movies with great music. The movies are some of my favorites, and also hold a little Nostalgia for me, because the first time I saw these movies, more notably Bogus Journey, I was around 7 or so. Now 13 years later, I still love these movies. I believe people will understand when I say it's difficult to put thoughts and feelings into words… that actually make sense. I’m a fan of sequels, mostly because they continue stories of the characters we have become attached to. I’m not saying all sequels are good, or that they’re excusable, but I probably like more sequels then the common person. With that said my two all time favorite films are Ghostbusters 2, and Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey.
I always over think, and breath more into a film than the casual watcher, even if I’m not a fan of the material. When I watch Bill and Ted I look pass the comedy, and pay attention to the underlining plot, about two less-than-intelligent men who mature into rock musicians that bring peace to the world. The one thing that I like more about the second one is that… that’s the whole part of the film. They forge their band, journey to Heaven, Hell, and Death's domain. They fulfill their destiny right there on the screen. Also the ending - when they perform God Gave Rock and Roll with that guitar intro preformed by Steve Vai, is still one of my favorite endings to any film.
Excellent Adventure has its moments as well. I love the historic characters. Some of the highlights in the film are - when we first see the booth, but till this day I don't know why it started as a diamond then turned into the booth. The circuits of time scenes are awesome, a little disappointed we never saw them in the second movie. The ending is THE highlight of film, the actual report, the way it was executed was brilliant. I have to admit, it had a lot more music that I enjoyed than in the second film.
I think Bogus Journey did improve on some concepts, like Rufus being a history teacher and he using the booth as a teaching instrument. We get a actual villain, an awesome future concept, and robots. I really like robots. The primary storyline for the two great ones takes a larger roll in this film. The beginning started this film off perfectly. De Nomolos' monologue was short but to the point, " they have reached their second crucial turning point in their destiny…" The bulk of the beginning was slow and lame, after the evil robots traveled to the past, and before the robots drag Bill and Ted to that deserted location from Star Trek. The remainder of the film more than makes up for it.
Most of you probably don’t know this but there were delete scenes to both films, I didn’t feel like Excellent Adventure lost anything of import. But Bogus Journey on the other hand… OMG. It had a different ending all together, where they had Bill and Ted recite a longer, and more meaningful speech. But the speech made references to another scene that they took out which is why they changed it I suppose. That scene was after Station constructed the Good Robots, and Bill and Ted wanted to pick up the princesses to take them to the Battle of the Bands. Upon arrival to their home, they found two canisters left by the Evil Robots. These would eventually hatch out into large, exaggerated and terrifying versions of the fears which Bill and Ted faced in Hades: The Easter Bunny, Granny S. Preston, Esq. and Colonel Oates. Bill and Ted, along with Death, Station and the good robots, confronted these monsters on their way to the Battle of the Bands. After an intense chase, in which the fears work together to attack the van Bill and Ted realize to conquer their fears they must face them. Bill kisses his granny and she disappears, Ted confesses to Deacon (via cell phone) that he stole his Easter basket and the giant rabbit disappears, and finally they invite Colonel Oates into the back of their van for snacks, which breaks him down into a nice guy and he also disappears.
Bogus Journey was vastly different than it’s predecessor, the various set designs, and the bizarre visuals. Being able to watch these characters that we’ve come to enjoy to finally fulfill their destiny that was established in the first movie is probably the main reason I enjoy it so much.
So which film was your favorite, and why do you like it? With there being more news about a third film, a discussion thread for the originals only seems appropriate.
I always over think, and breath more into a film than the casual watcher, even if I’m not a fan of the material. When I watch Bill and Ted I look pass the comedy, and pay attention to the underlining plot, about two less-than-intelligent men who mature into rock musicians that bring peace to the world. The one thing that I like more about the second one is that… that’s the whole part of the film. They forge their band, journey to Heaven, Hell, and Death's domain. They fulfill their destiny right there on the screen. Also the ending - when they perform God Gave Rock and Roll with that guitar intro preformed by Steve Vai, is still one of my favorite endings to any film.
Excellent Adventure has its moments as well. I love the historic characters. Some of the highlights in the film are - when we first see the booth, but till this day I don't know why it started as a diamond then turned into the booth. The circuits of time scenes are awesome, a little disappointed we never saw them in the second movie. The ending is THE highlight of film, the actual report, the way it was executed was brilliant. I have to admit, it had a lot more music that I enjoyed than in the second film.
I think Bogus Journey did improve on some concepts, like Rufus being a history teacher and he using the booth as a teaching instrument. We get a actual villain, an awesome future concept, and robots. I really like robots. The primary storyline for the two great ones takes a larger roll in this film. The beginning started this film off perfectly. De Nomolos' monologue was short but to the point, " they have reached their second crucial turning point in their destiny…" The bulk of the beginning was slow and lame, after the evil robots traveled to the past, and before the robots drag Bill and Ted to that deserted location from Star Trek. The remainder of the film more than makes up for it.
Most of you probably don’t know this but there were delete scenes to both films, I didn’t feel like Excellent Adventure lost anything of import. But Bogus Journey on the other hand… OMG. It had a different ending all together, where they had Bill and Ted recite a longer, and more meaningful speech. But the speech made references to another scene that they took out which is why they changed it I suppose. That scene was after Station constructed the Good Robots, and Bill and Ted wanted to pick up the princesses to take them to the Battle of the Bands. Upon arrival to their home, they found two canisters left by the Evil Robots. These would eventually hatch out into large, exaggerated and terrifying versions of the fears which Bill and Ted faced in Hades: The Easter Bunny, Granny S. Preston, Esq. and Colonel Oates. Bill and Ted, along with Death, Station and the good robots, confronted these monsters on their way to the Battle of the Bands. After an intense chase, in which the fears work together to attack the van Bill and Ted realize to conquer their fears they must face them. Bill kisses his granny and she disappears, Ted confesses to Deacon (via cell phone) that he stole his Easter basket and the giant rabbit disappears, and finally they invite Colonel Oates into the back of their van for snacks, which breaks him down into a nice guy and he also disappears.
Bogus Journey was vastly different than it’s predecessor, the various set designs, and the bizarre visuals. Being able to watch these characters that we’ve come to enjoy to finally fulfill their destiny that was established in the first movie is probably the main reason I enjoy it so much.
So which film was your favorite, and why do you like it? With there being more news about a third film, a discussion thread for the originals only seems appropriate.