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What do you use to mask the thinner stripes? [/b]
Way back in the very begining, Eddie had his black and white striped guitar. He didn't like the solid color of it, and used automotive pinstriping to decorate it. Later, he decided to paint the whole thing, but neglected to take the tape off. When he did take the tape off, it was the birth of the famous paint style.

To answer your queastion, just about anything can be used to mask - bike tape, masking tape (duh), duct tape, electric tape, stickers, etc.
 
Thanks for the compliments. Here's how I did it:

First, I sanded the entire guitar to take the gloss off, so the new paint would stick. I then painted the entire body black... yes that's right, black first. I let that dry really well, then placed masking tape where I wanted the black stripes.

Then, with those stripes masked, I painted the entire body white. I did three coats to get a good, bright white over the black. I let that dry, then masked where I wanted the wide white stripes, leaving the black stripes masked as well.

Then, I painted the entire body red. It took a couple coats to not look pink over the white. I let that dry, then pulled all of the masking off. Because the black was painted first, it appears to be OVER the white stripes. This produced a red guitar with wide black and white stripes.

To do the thin white stripes, I applied automotive pinstriping, then just clearcoated over everything. If (when) I do it again, I'll use the pinstriping in the same step as the wide white stripes and pull that off revealing thin white stripes.

Hope that makes sense.... I guess I should have taken pics of the process.

-Doug
 
For painting, just remember, that your base color will be the one that appears to be on top of the other colors. On eddie's guitar, it looks as if black is on top, so it's safe to assume that the base is black (unless he created female templates and painted between two strips of tape).

Though generally speaking, you want to work from lightest to darkest to avoid bleed through, but I guess that wasn't one of Ed's biggest concerns :lol .

Anyway, any decent hobby shop will have masking tape in widths down to 1/16th ".

-Fred
 
Just saw this thread and thought I'd throw something in here...
There is an exact replica of the guitar in the Hard Rock in Vegas. I was out there in October and you can really get a great look at it. Its in a glass case in one of the hallways off of the main casino floor. If anyone is going out there take a camera. I didn't have mine with me at the time...

I actually stood there for a minute thinking what a cool project it would be to recreate it.

Awesome stuff.
 
Oh, you want pics do you??

Give me a bit to upload to my account. :)

I started stripping and sanding the organ donor, er, I mean donor GUITAR today. :) The previous owner used Krylon, which when you use an orbital sander on it turns the paint into a sticky goo-like substance. Had to change sanding pads several times.

I also discovered that the person never sanded the original guitar before painting it, so much of the original factory clearcoat was still there. After about an hour of sanding (by hand and then with the orbital) I switched to a straight paint scraping razor blade and the process sped up by leaps and bounds.

The downside is the fact that the original neck of the guitar is a no-go, and I'll have to fabricate something from scratch.

I plan on using the 3M fineline masking tapes, I just have to see if I can source it locally. I'm probably going to use the Duplicolor rattle cans. I've heard poor reports from the Krylon colors, which is odd since I personally have such a great track record using Krylon on prop guns and other parts. People suggest using strait up automotive paints and clearcoat, but I don't have a sprayer, so for me rattle cans are easiest.

Pics soon, plus masking stripe diagrams. :)

Russ
 
Oh yeah... I used duplicolor. Worked great. (of course, I love it for darn-near everything.)
 
Did you clear coat it when you were done? If so, how many layers?

That makes me happy as I picked up some Duplicolor from the auto parts store last night. :)

Did you have to bake it or anything to cure it?

I want this bad boy to be as useable as possible with as "permanent" a finish as possible.

Cheaply of course. :)

Russ
 
I think I did six coats of duplicolor's "Clear Top Coat" on it. It's a pretty durable finish. I've never baked it, I don't think you have to. It dries to the touch pretty quickly (20-30 minutes sometimes depending on temp and humidity) but takes a while to cure completely. I don't claim to be a paint expert, but duplicolor is the nicest rattle-can paint I've ever used. It sprays nice, and boy does it make a nice-looking Vader lid.
 
Here is something I did a few years ago. Can't beat the classic look.

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More. More pics....

That's my fav guitar of all times. I have one donor guitar, color red, but I've never had the guts to work on it I'm afraid to take everyting apart and then not knowing how to put it back on... specially the neck :p
 
Putting the neck back on is easy... just put the four bolts that hold it on... back on. :)

Not certain about the rest of it, but really, Its not as complex a design as you'd think it would
be by looking at a finished one. The majority of the parts are screwed/bolted in place.
You may need to resolder a grounding wire, but it's not too much more complex than that.

The hardest part would be retuning it. At least for me. I was in choir in high school all those
years ago, not band or orchestra. :D

Russ
 
Is that it? Cooool. I was afraid of the neck getting twisted or something if not placed back correctly.

Thanks.... I think that'll be one of my next projects. :)
 
Yeah I was surprised at how easily the neck was removed/replaced. I thought it'd be harder too....
 
Nice job.

Here's some pics of my work in progress.

I found a stripped guitar on eBay for more than I should have paid (appx. $100) but it is a Kramer, the same
brand that EVH's guitar was made from, and looks similar so I figure that's a good place to start. I get it and
start sanding and stripping the half-@$$#d paint job that was already on it.

The paint job looks fine in the pictures, but it's very sloppy and there's no clear coat to speak of.
Add in the fact that the stripe design is completely wrong, so I decided to do it from scratch.

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The black lines are just a frakking magic marker. How weak is that? ^_^

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The original guitar was either an ivory or bone white. The previous owner painted white stripes rather than
repainting the whole thing white. I'll personally be starting with a white base and masking all the lines.
Its easier to paint dark colors over a light background than it is to paint light over dark.

At least in my experience.

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I discovered after the paint clogged 3 pieces of sandpaper, that it was faster to use a razor blade
paint scraper than try to sand off every layer. The scraper was MUCH faster but I did gouge the
surface a few times which will require extra sanding and bondo.

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I still need to sand down the edges and the flat surfaces some more to remove all the other paint,
but I think it looks pretty good already. When scraping the backside I actually scraped off sections
of the original factory paint coat (oops...), so I need to smooth the edges down some more before I repaint.

I also need to do all my routing and figuring where the Guitar Heroes controller guts will sit, and
then bondo in any remaining holes.

Whew.

Here's a few templates/plans I found/modified. They are actual photos of Eddie's original 5150.
HEAVILY used of course. Mine will look more "factory" than "relic."

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Russ
 
Thanks for the tips fellas. I had no idea the neck was that simple. Mike, that guitar looks awesome.

As far as the tremolo/whammy bar, I think I'll be upgrading to a Floyd, since the one that comes with the guitar is a Crap-O-Matic. I'll definitely need to look for someone who can set it up for me. i know routing will be involved since a cavity has to be made to accomodate the Floyd :(

Russ, you are doing an excellent job. The sanding is coming out great. I think 100 bucks for a Kramer is a nice price. I can't believe the black lines were done with a marker. :lol

BTW, thanks for sharing the 5150 template.... :)
 
Eddie Van Halen sucks. The most overrated guitarist ever. Eruption you say? Hah. Take a listen to Jason Becker and you will forget about Eddie "I invented tapping" Van Halen.
 
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