Captain America Shield Star Dimension

[Chris Fields]

that is very interesting. I noticed it the first time I saw the movie on opening night. To me, this kinda confirmed that the hero shields in the movie were in fact separate piece rings that interlocked and tied together with the back bracket. That has been verified finally. Since these rings are separate, they can be slightly off angle from one another, giving this look from the front, yet looking flush from the side.

 

[Chris Fields]

btw, going back to one of the earlier size points. There are some scene's where Cap is fighting and do a lot of moving or running with the shield on his back. It appears this shield may be one of the smaller 24" diameter ones. Who ever mentioned this earlier was correct.

 

[Zombie Killer]

From what i saw last night the small one has a thinner inner ring. The big one he used at the begining where it is unpainted. This one also has a different handle. Also at the first raid it looks like a big painted one. The small one seems to be used the rest of the movie because he is either fighting or wearing it on his back. So i get 3 different ones. An unpainted big one with metal handles, a painted big one with battle scortches and a smaller painted one with scortches or battle damage. There were probably more made though.

 

[Chris Fields]

There were tons made, over 30 I believe, maybe more, and 6 different sizes. :eek

 

[Verbal21]

May I please ask who made this shield? It's a beauty.

thanks:thumbsup I got the shield spun from AMS in Florida, where everybody gets their shields from and the paintwork was from our very own member, Phizzle. and that Valor's awesome center star's in the middle.

I've since then, measured 26", 20.625", 15.375", and 10" as the new measurements.

mind if I use these measurements as well? I'm having them spin me up a new one shortly

 

[TheCap]

ah, i figured one may have been steel, since Evans complained about weight in one of his interviews. also i totally agree its 3 or 4 seperate interlocking pieces, i've shown a lot of those stills to a company here, and they also agree. they also said they could make me one 100% accurate to the movie shield for mmmm about $1k lol. i love when they do that mmmm figuring up a price in their head stuff, you just know an ouch # is about to hit you in the face.

 

[shenphong]

thanks:thumbsup I got the shield spun from AMS in Florida, where everybody gets their shields from and the paintwork was from our very own member, Phizzle. and that Valor's awesome center star's in the middle.



mind if I use these measurements as well? I'm having them spin me up a new one shortly

Please feel free to. I don't believe they should be charging you extra but I'm not sure. My numbers were taken after talking back and forth with members through PM and through the thread so if anyone would like to use them, feel free to. Currently, I have one shield with an 8" center coming in that I'll do a full white, blue, red paint job for a comic book version and one 10" center for a movie version. There needs to be as many varieties of these shields as IM helmets in my book, now just need to work on a strapping system for one. Luckily alu. welding is not a problem since I do custom motorcycle frame work as a part time side job:lol

 

[Verbal21]

yeah, anything other than TheCap's original dimensions and they charge more.

 

[shenphong]

Aw lame, I gave them my numbers too. They charged me $185 though and from what I've been told, people were originally getting charged $220 so I guess that doesn't hurt too much. Great people to work with though and still leagues cheaper than anything out here.

 

[Verbal21]

yeah, my original one with the 8" center was $185 as well. This new one with your measurements was an extra $25, so like you said, still a lot cheaper than anybody else and once you get it in person, you'll definitely realize it looks like it's worth a lot more.

 

[shenphong]

Anyone else out there able to post up some possible high-res blu ray shots of the shield?

 

[CSMacLaren]

Just some quick n' dirty overlay analysis. I'm not an expert at all in the prop. But I do know that camera distance can result in the star appearing bigger or smaller than the rest of the shield. Perhaps that's something to consider.

 

[shenphong]

It never occurred to me that camera distance may be a factor...would love to hear others chime in as well.

 

[Zombie Killer]

I know this is very unscientific but its all i have for pics. When you put those up against the screenshots the 10" center is looking better to me. That poster shield looks a bit over weathered so i wonder if it is even a real shield or some CGI thing.

 

[CSMacLaren]

I managed to do some more careful analysis. I found a hi-res photo of the shield on a poster. Given that there are many fan posters out there, I feel this is an authentic wallpaper.

Bear in mind that photos of shields -- or any prop -- must take into account camera distance and angle. Too close and there will be a fish-eye like distortion. Differences in angle and perspective will be very noticeable with concentric circles.

Also, we have to ascertain if the image we're seeing is an elaborate computer 3D model or not - and if so, if the prop is identical to the computer model. If it's a computer model, chances of tilt and perspective angles being off are possibly reduced.

So here is my overlay analysis of the poster. I brightened it up as much as I can and traced concentric circles over the lines I see.

Looks like this shield image may not suffer from any perspective distortion.

Now when we take Valor's image of the 10" and place it under my tracing:

Notice that the outer red track of the shield in Valor's pic is narrower than the inner red track, so I don't know if that's by design or by virtue of the camera being a bit close. I was also having a hard time getting a precise overlay of just the inside star and smaller concentric circles, so there the camera may have been at a slight angle.

Anyways, this looks like a fairly decent nod to the 10"+/- blue circle and star size.

Thoughts?

BTW, if anyone wants my computer file and wouldn't mind making a shield for me at one point (I'll pay, of course), I'd be more than happy to do any additional analysis if I'm able.

 

[CSMacLaren]

In response to Zombie Killer,s shot, I decided to do some analysis on that as well.

First, I brightened the shot up as much as I could. Then I tried to correct for perspective tilt. Notice that the shield on Steve's right is pulled away from the camera. The bottom is also pulled back a bit.

It's very difficult to correct for perspective. Please bear in mind this is just an approximation. The goal is to get concentric circles at neatly as possible without changing their distance relationships to one another, which perspective correction in Photoshop can potentially cause.

Here is the enhanced photo with perspective correction to the shield, and an outer glow to make it more visible:

And here is my overlay. It's not perfect.

My correction attempt was by no means 100%. It was difficult getting perfect concentric circles. So what we are left with is a sense of proportions of the lines to one another. In this case, there is sufficient camera distance to the shield that roughly correlates with the hi res poster I had traced.

 

[Zombie Killer]

I agree this is just to get an idea. Without a perfectly straight shot at distance it is just a guesstamation. It does look like it's around 10" to me as well. It's definetly close enough for me at this point. I want mine to have a screen accurate look, it doesn't need to be milimeter perfect, just proportioned right

 

[Valor]

Now THIS is the nerdy overanalysis I was looking for

 

[TheCap]

I managed to do some more careful analysis. I found a hi-res photo of the shield on a poster. Given that there are many fan posters out there, I feel this is an authentic wallpaper.

Bear in mind that photos of shields -- or any prop -- must take into account camera distance and angle. Too close and there will be a fish-eye like distortion. Differences in angle and perspective will be very noticeable with concentric circles.

Also, we have to ascertain if the image we're seeing is an elaborate computer 3D model or not - and if so, if the prop is identical to the computer model. If it's a computer model, chances of tilt and perspective angles being off are possibly reduced.

So here is my overlay analysis of the poster. I brightened it up as much as I can and traced concentric circles over the lines I see.

Looks like this shield image may not suffer from any perspective distortion.

Now when we take Valor's image of the 10" and place it under my tracing:

Notice that the outer red track of the shield in Valor's pic is narrower than the inner red track, so I don't know if that's by design or by virtue of the camera being a bit close. I was also having a hard time getting a precise overlay of just the inside star and smaller concentric circles, so there the camera may have been at a slight angle.

Anyways, this looks like a fairly decent nod to the 10"+/- blue circle and star size.

Thoughts?

BTW, if anyone wants my computer file and wouldn't mind making a shield for me at one point (I'll pay, of course), I'd be more than happy to do any additional analysis if I'm able.

so what would this look like with a 10.5" or an 11" and with the first side by sides mine doesnt look bad next to the poster shot! yay lol.

 

[Chris Fields]

ah, i figured one may have been steel, since Evans complained about weight in one of his interviews. also i totally agree its 3 or 4 seperate interlocking pieces, i've shown a lot of those stills to a company here, and they also agree. they also said they could make me one 100% accurate to the movie shield for mmmm about $1k lol. i love when they do that mmmm figuring up a price in their head stuff, you just know an ouch # is about to hit you in the face.

1k is pretty cheap. The hero props for the film were over 10k a piece.