Dave Prowse banned from C5 !!
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Prowse was not only a bodybuilder but an actor. He was excellent in A Clockwork Orange. And just any of these actors who did a little job and find they are typecast for life, he wants something for his trouble.
David Prowse (I) - Biography
Trained Christopher Reeve for his role in the first Superman (1978) movie.
Diagnosed with prostrate cancer in early 2009. Announced in February 2010 that he had made a full recovery following intensive radio therapy at a London hospital.
Before he entered films, he was a hard working apprentice engineer at BOAC in Bristol. [part man and part machine?]
David Prowse (I) - Biography
Trained Christopher Reeve for his role in the first Superman (1978) movie.
Diagnosed with prostrate cancer in early 2009. Announced in February 2010 that he had made a full recovery following intensive radio therapy at a London hospital.
Before he entered films, he was a hard working apprentice engineer at BOAC in Bristol. [part man and part machine?]
UFO
Sr Member
typecast for life? really? come on. in order to be typecast... people have to know who you are. to be typecast, the average person off the street would have to look at you and instantly recognize you for that role. no way in the world is he typecast.
I'm tired of hearing Prowse whine about getting his voice replaced. It's been 30+ years, get over it. You don't see Jeremy Bulloch complaining, do you? How about Garrick Hagon? Ever seen him cry in his beer about his role getting cut to almost nothing?
...maybe the Motel 6? Red Roof ain't the bargain it used to be! :lol
blipper
Sr Member
Also, an interesting contrast with Bob Anderson who hasn't sought to capitalize on his own important contribution.
tgreco
Sr Member
Dave Ward
Sr Member
Interesting, I just googled Mr. Hagon and found his Biggs website, which just seems full of love for SW and the fans, very uplifting.
Egon Spengler
Master Member
Extras being listed in the credits? What movies are you watching. That very rarely EVER happens if at all.
KevVader
Sr Member
Totally agreed. Not to take anything away from JEJ, his voice was the icing on the cake...Prowse's presence, his walk/gait, the way that he stood and carried himself...THAT is what made Vader impressive. Seeing Hayden in the suit in ROTS, just didn't have the same impact...JEJ's voice was there, but Hayden just couldn't pull it off.....wouldn't have mattered if they took the ANH suit and padded it for him, it just wasn't Vader.
If I were Dave, I'd be pissed too.
themanwoaname
Sr Member
in stunts?
I remember meeting Dave in Forbidden Planet in London - back in 1980.
Mark Hamill turned up later on too - but that's a different story.
Dave sat at a table, signing anything anyone put in front of him: 'Dave Prowse is Darth Vader.' I guess back then, he wanted to be known as the guy that brought the physical presence of Vader on screen to life. Remember that Tantive entrance - that look up at the Falcon in the Death Star hanger bay, before walking away - the creep up to admiral whateverhisnameis and then reaching out to choke him?
Oh, and don't forget he actually learnt the lines and spoke them on set.
Anyway - when I met him he said to me, 'Have you seen the film yet?'
'No,' I replied, (this was around a week before it was shown, IIRC) 'not yet.'
'Well you're going to love it, I saw it last night and it's incredible.'
I find it sad how things have changed - neither Dave or George are getting any younger.
I've seen Dave a couple of time since that first encounter - and he still signs 'Dave Prowse is Darth Vader.' I think he's right.
Mark Hamill turned up later on too - but that's a different story.
Dave sat at a table, signing anything anyone put in front of him: 'Dave Prowse is Darth Vader.' I guess back then, he wanted to be known as the guy that brought the physical presence of Vader on screen to life. Remember that Tantive entrance - that look up at the Falcon in the Death Star hanger bay, before walking away - the creep up to admiral whateverhisnameis and then reaching out to choke him?
Oh, and don't forget he actually learnt the lines and spoke them on set.
Anyway - when I met him he said to me, 'Have you seen the film yet?'
'No,' I replied, (this was around a week before it was shown, IIRC) 'not yet.'
'Well you're going to love it, I saw it last night and it's incredible.'
I find it sad how things have changed - neither Dave or George are getting any younger.
I've seen Dave a couple of time since that first encounter - and he still signs 'Dave Prowse is Darth Vader.' I think he's right.
blipper
Sr Member
Sure, but he's remained comparatively mouse-like about his involvement with Vader, and besides stunt scenes, what other screen-time as Vader did he have that might more often be presumed to be Prowse?
I can't really agree with you fellas here. In my opinion Prowse is at the back of the queue. First off Vaders iconic presence comes from his look, courtesy of those involved in the design and execution of the costume. Then it's JEJ's voice which is rather inspired voice casting and fleshes out the character much more than Prowse's "acting" abilities ever could.
Prowse's contribution boils down to standing, moving head slightly and a little bit of pointing. The fact that Bob Anderson can slip in as Vader unnoticed by fans shows that it's the suit, not necessarily the man.
Hayden as Vader was just a bad choice by Lucas, being so far removed from Vaders established size and frame that no amount of padding will prevent it looking off.
I'm not meaning to be churlish to Prowse, I'll just always have an appreciation for his Green Cross Code man long before what he added in depth to Vader.
Westies14
Master Member
Great post! :thumbsup
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
Did he get a raw deal years ago? Hell yes! That said, you cannot go around bad mouthing the guy that made your name known in the sci-fi world and then expect to be invited to the party.
Thanks westies.
Oh - I forgot to mention. Dave didn't charge for his autograph back in the 80s.
Qui - I agree with you to a degree. But it seems recent conventions (there's an Empire reunion one in London this weekend) are attended by Admiral what'shisface and General couldncareless, charging $30 for a signed piccy. It seems these guys have nothing bad to say about their time during these films - but Dave just expresses himself openly and honestly and that's what gets him into trouble.
It's a shame - but from the threads I've seen posted here of late, Lucasfilm doesn't need to worry about Dave giving them bad press, their legal department are doing a fine job all by themselves.
Oh - I forgot to mention. Dave didn't charge for his autograph back in the 80s.
Qui - I agree with you to a degree. But it seems recent conventions (there's an Empire reunion one in London this weekend) are attended by Admiral what'shisface and General couldncareless, charging $30 for a signed piccy. It seems these guys have nothing bad to say about their time during these films - but Dave just expresses himself openly and honestly and that's what gets him into trouble.
It's a shame - but from the threads I've seen posted here of late, Lucasfilm doesn't need to worry about Dave giving them bad press, their legal department are doing a fine job all by themselves.
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
Howard, it is called "Don't poke the bear". The bit actors seems to have this firmly in their head..."Don't **** off Lucas"...but Prowse cannot wrap his head around this simple fact.
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