French student film made years before Pixar's "UP"

I too never heard of this until recently. It turns out that Disney ordered them to be completely wiped out.

"The small toy company was no match for the large production company and the courts ordered the Performo-Toy Company to stop all production of the Micky toys and destroy any existing stock. Even catalogs containing Micky had to be destroyed."


REad about on WIKI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performo_Toy_Company
 
Moviefreak said:
I too never heard of this until recently. It turns out that Disney ordered them to be completely wiped out.
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Thanks for the link. I think this sums it up though!

A conspiracy theory might have arisen from this story, however, History Detectives, a television program on PBS, conducted an extensive investigation on the topic. The historians and researchers of the PBS program conducted a nation wide search finding that there are no records nor evidence of any legal action between the two parties. Inquires to Disney historians and archivists, resulted in a letter stating that no such action had ever existed between the companies. Hence the legend is dismissed as local gossip made urban myth.
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I think Mickey Mouse doesn't look too much different from Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. Since Ub Iwerks and Disney designed both characters, I would have to say Myth Busted.

FB
 
I dont know about this but I know Disney storyboards begin way in advance to actually release. The only Pixar film that took less then 2 years to make was Toy Story 2 and 3 because they altready had the character designs from the first film.
 
Moviefreak said:
After learning of the student film, why not change their script a little?

Because they knew the students didn't own copyrights on a student film, and that there was legally nothing that could be done.
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Who says they even knew about the student film? People have only started trying to make A Thing about it very recently...
 
They might not know them when they are used in class only... but when it hits the film festivals as this did, they have people there. It is not the intention to go and steal, but to see the new work out there, the new talent for possible networking and hiring and the direction the market is going. These new students are the future of the field, so they keep an eye on the future workforce.


BTW.....Awesome website and work, TherRealFennShysa. Great stuff!!
 
franz bolo said:
Where did you get this information?? Please post any pics of this toy. I've never heard of it before and I think this is not based on facts.

It was originally called Mortimer Mouse but his wife liked Mickey better.

FB
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It appears this discussion on Mickey Mouse has been around awhile. It's interesting to read the "official" Disney-only family account of the mouse's origins and the more plausible Ub Iwerks origin story. :unsure
 
It is funny about the Mickey Mouse debate. There are always two sides to a story, and with a BIG company like that, their story is always heard frist and louder than the others. So who knows the whole truth?? Walt Disney!!
 
subxinu said:
It's interesting to read the "official" Disney-only family account of the mouse's origins and the more plausible Ub Iwerks origin story. :unsure
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Yeah, Walt's train ride inspiration is BS.

A good read is the book "The Hand Behind the Mouse" written by Leslie Iwerks and John Kenworthy. It was also release on the DVD "The Adventures of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit" put out by Disney.

Ub was a genius!! :thumbsup

FB
 
franz bolo said:
A good read is the book "The Hand Behind the Mouse" written by Leslie Iwerks and John Kenworthy. It was also release on the DVD "The Adventures of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit" put out by Disney.

Ub was a genius!! :thumbsup

FB
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LOVE that book. I collect Flip the Frog stuff and Ub is one of my heroes. The book goes into more detail about the origin of Mickey Mouse than the documentary. But both do discuss that Ub is, indeed, the one who designed Mickey, NOT Walt and that Walt's wife came up with the name Mickey. Neither the book nor the docu mention the supposed "Micky" toy.

I have that Ub documentary as well as a bunch of Flip the Frog 'toons on my website if anyone is interested in early animation: http://www.thegreat1930s.com/ubiwerks
 
Don't get me wrong, Pixar is awesome and they do the best animation out there.

Their story telling is Flawless and their execution is genious!! I just question the similarities of this short. Others by them, Cars, Toy Story..... UNBELIEVABLE!! Great story and originality.
 
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