Green Lantern Ring

[Wes]

So the lesson I have learned here is: that if you are a professional in this industry, we really don't care what you have to say. We will still believe what we want anyway...I guess :unsure


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You guys are reading only what you want to read or you spent your childhood riding that bus that was smaller than the rest.

If that was the lesson you learned I suggest you move on to another thread or read it a few more times.

 

[androidandy]

Of course you win because you added the clever insult in there.

This is what this thread is saying, even if you don't mean it to. The guy who made the props for the movie said no split band rings were made for the movie, and you guys would rather trash him and other professionals than admit you might just be possibly wrong. Sorry you are unable to see this. Dunning-Kruger FTW

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[Wes]

I'm done here Mic, good luck dude.

 

[micdavis]

you guys would rather trash him and other professionals

Please demonstrate where this occurred?

The only person throwing around sideways insults and comments is Stormleader.

Some people just live with blinders on I guess.

All I EVER suggested here was that it is POSSIBLE that things go on without every member of a film crew present. If you can't see that, then you have another agenda.

 

[androidandy]

I do agree with what Mic said about facts having a lot of grey area, and sure there is a slight possibility that this ring could have been used in filming at some point. It just looks very unlikely here. I don't like it that people have to be so binary all the time...wright/wrong, left/right, coke/pepsi, human/replicant. No matter what it is a very cool and rare ring, and if further information comes out that it was in fact used during filming that would be very cool, but there wasn't anything at all to back it up beyond one statement.

The big issue I had was this became an attitude fest to trash people who actually did have real inside information. I am not saying "Bow down and kiss their feet", I am just saying show enough respect to say "You could be right, I would like to look further into this". When you have an argument, the truth is rarely 100% on either side of the argument. If you pick a side, you have to in fact decide to not want the full truth. This society teaches us it is about winning and losing, not about finding the truth. As they say the victors write the history books. But that makes it even more insidious to me. Because arguments have become less to do with what is right with each side of the argument, and instead, what is wrong. What is wrong is in the end worthless information. You need to know what is right to actually get anywere.

I honestly would love to hear more information about this ring. There might be an actual mystery here. I just say that because few industry people have been wrong in the past, it has nothing to do with the facts about this ring's provenance. Each bit of information can be weighed and judged by it's position on the scale. I am saying given what little bit of information there is about this ring, it looks pretty light, and needs more information to give it some weight. It is up to Mic now to try and prove this rings authenticity if he even still cares to.

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[androidandy]

Please demonstrate where this occurred?

The only person throwing around sideways insults and comments is Stormleader.

Some people just live with blinders on I guess.

All I EVER suggested here was that it is POSSIBLE that things go on without every member of a film crew present. If you can't see that, then you have another agenda.

It isn't what you did say, it was what you didn't say. You never said "you could be right". You just dismissed him.

Andy

 

[micdavis]

I guess there is the difference.

I was never trying prove anything.

Just showing what came my way.

Anyone with brains read the ORDER that things occurred from the top.

I'm done here.

Mods might as well close this one.

 

[androidandy]

I am sorry I made this thread worse. I just wanted to point out how the thread looked from an outside perspective.

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[franz bolo]

Of course. You guys are right. Carry on.

:lol

FB

 

[KitSmasher]

Keep living in the past whoever you are?

Why do all these people I don't even know think they get to use my first name?

We've met THREE times now, MIKE.

No, I TOTALLY get Mike's point. But this isn't some movie that's twenty years old where someone is mis-remembering. The re-shoots are barely two months in the can and the film isn't even released yet.

I try to offer what limited info I can, and instead I get told that some guy on the internet knows better because of his years of "experience". :rolleyes It's been this way since I joined in 1999, and I never understood it then either. Now that I'm on the other side of the fence, why did I expect it to be any different? :lol

Well, I have to thank you, Mike. You've just increased the valuation of my collection, as every item COULD be screen used. I just can't be sure. *shrug* See you on Ebay.

 

[AJLoCascio]

Stunt Ring anyone ?

 

[Jack T Chance]

Stunt Ring anyone ?

:confused

And with that, I think my brain just BROKE! :thumbsdown

Look, the rings for the movie production were MADE by our members nexnox and/or Stormleader. So Stormleader is one of 2 authorities on the subject on these forums. If he says that ring wasn't used in the production of the movie, IT WAS NOT! PERIOD, END OF STORY.

 

[Rusty85]

Is there any reason we can't see pictures of the screen-used rings from the above members? If they're making replicas cast off of them by DC Direct and there's pictures of those why wouldn't we be able to see any? After all, we have seen numerous pics of it online now in magazines and pics of the movie.

 

[IndyFanChuck]

Be nice everyone. This thread turned REAL nasty real quick. Mike was just sharing something his friend got to see, and that's all. Other people jumped in and got nasty.

You know who you are. Who cares who's right and wrong. We can STILL be nice to each other.

Why don't we all just be super cool and just say HEY THATS A COOL RING!


Everyone's on edge lately. Be nice. Get along. HUGS ANYONE?

 

[Jack T Chance]

Is there any reason we can't see pictures of the screen-used rings from the above members? If they're making replicas cast off of them by DC Direct and there's pictures of those why wouldn't we be able to see any? After all, we have seen numerous pics of it online now in magazines and pics of the movie.

Because of the dreaded Non-Disclosure Agreement they had to sign when making the rings. Looks like we'll have to wait for the various movie tie-in books to see good pics of the props.

Since I'm sure that some still doubt Stormleader's word on the subject, here's a number of quoted posts from the main thread about the movie ring that should clear up any confusion on anyone's part:

Who? Did he design them?

The company nexnox and I work at made all the GL movie rings.

Hmm. That's interesting. Perhaps he was bidding on the job? They went through 20+ versions of the ring before they decided on the final design.

However, I can emphatically tell you with 100% certainty we made the movie rings. Nexnox did all the CNC work, and we made a LOT of them.

The ring bodies are machined brass.

Brass? All the photos we've seen it looks silver but I suppose that could be the way it looks on-screen.
I guess my biggest concern is that a licensed replica will not be as detailed as the original and/or only be sold in one-size and for 'display only'.
BTW, how do you know the ring body is machined brass??

Because Nexnox and I are the guys loading the brass into the CNC machine each time we make a set, lol.

It DOES look silver, doesn't it? There's a few ways to make brass silver...

the ring in abin-sur's hand is cg, and the one in hal's is the real. a size 10.5

Those "press" rings are replica castings. The real rings do not have a split back and they have a hole in the center of the metal to let light through the center gem. You can see the light through the center go dark as Hal closes his hand around the ring in the trailer.

The center metal ring should be silver.

The original "Gem" pieces that where used in the movie where all SLA'd out of Accura60 resin. We eventually cast them in urethane. All had a green candy coat of paint.

Anyone still have any questions? If so, you can find those posts and more on the subject at THIS THREAD.

 

[Nightwing Returns]

It appears the ring Mike is showing in the first post has the same grey band that the Lantern Prop ring has. The promo ring band was the same color inside as the rest of the metal.

Promo:

Mikes:

Lantern Prop Ring:

Dont know if that means anything. But it is kinds funny that the light shines thru in the same way on Mikes and the Lantern Props ring. Maybe your friend got a Prototype of this ring?

 

[Jack T Chance]

It appears the ring Mike is showing in the first post has the same grey band that the Lantern Prop ring has. The promo ring band was the same color inside as the rest of the metal.

Promo:

Mikes:

Lantern Prop Ring:

Dont know if that means anything. But it is kinds funny that the light shines thru in the same way on Mikes and the Lantern Props ring. Maybe your friend got a Prototype of this ring?

Holy cow! I think you've solved the mystery! That sure does look like the DC Direct ring that's coming with the Power Battery Prop!

And now we know why DCD said, in regards to the celebrity swag ring, that they wouldn't sell "that same version" to the public... they modified it for the release with the Power Battery. For one thing, in most pictures, the center gem seems to be the same shade of green as the rest of the face, which is a change from the promo ring. Frankly, I prefer the lighter green used on the promo ring, as it simulates the look of the "lit-up" ring seen in the new movie trailer, and it simulates it very effectively without any electric light source. Secondly, the rest of the face looks like it could be lighter than on the promo ring, which to me looked to be more accurately colored. But that could just be the lighting in the pics.

Promo:

Ring from trailer (with CGI "glow" added):

The thing that baffles me the most with the ring they're including with the Power Battery Prop is the sizing. If you're going to do the split band "one size fits most" thing, why on Earth (or Oa) would you set the default size at a US 14? Doesn't it make a whole lot more sense to set it at a much smaller, more normal size, like, say, a 10, or the 10½ that Ryan Reynolds wears in the movie, and then let those with larger fingers adjust it UP?!? :confused

I'll tell ya, it makes no sense to me. And it makes even LESS sense that the ring being sold by itself, which was "created from a cast of the actual ring used in the movie" is a size 13, when the rings made for Reynolds to wear are a size 10½! :rolleyes

But I digress... definitely appears that a positive ID has been made on the ring in question. thumbsup

And I apologize if anyone thought I was being too nasty earlier in the thread, I just take great offense at people disrespecting Stormleader and nexnox the way they were earlier in the thread. These 2 gentlemen didn't have to divulge that they made the rings for the movie. They could have kept that to themselves. But now that they have revealed the full depth of their involvement with the movie's props, people really should show them the proper respect.

If Stan Winston had come to these forums to talk about his projects he'd been working on for the last year or 2, would you doubt the info he provided? Or Rick Baker? Or John Dykstra? Somehow, I doubt it. What's fair is fair. Stormleader and nexnox deserve the same respect that would be shown to Winston or Baker or Dykstra, or Rich Coyle, who is a member here and has shared a lot of info with us that has greatly improved our hobby.

That's my 2 cents, For What It's Worth.

 

[Rusty85]

Personally, I think the ring with the Power Battery will have the adjustable band that's closer to a size you said, and the the DCD version that comes by itself will be the same size Ryan Reynolds wore with a solid band.

 

[Jack T Chance]

Personally, I think the ring with the Power Battery will have the adjustable band that's closer to a size you said, and the the DCD version that comes by itself will be the same size Ryan Reynolds wore with a solid band.

That's what you'd THINK, and that's what logic would dictate, but that's not what DC Direct is doing. One need only read their solicitations for the props to see what I mean...

Green Lantern Movie Power Battery Prop

This full-sized, light-up power battery prop replica was created from a cast of the actual prop used in the movie! The power battery also comes with a Green Lantern ring that lights up the lantern when the ring is pressed against the face of the lantern. This hand-painted, cold-cast porcelain prop measures approximately 15" high x 7.5" wide x 5" deep, with the ring a men's size 14.

Green Lantern Movie Power Ring Prop

This prop replica of the Green Lantern Power Ring was created from a cast of the actual ring used in the movie!

Featuring a distressed metal band and a translucent green faux crystal, the ring comes packaged in a two-part box foil-stamped with the Green Lantern movie logo and with protective foam inside.

Available in a men's ring size 13, although the ring is a prop replica ONLY and is not meant to be worn.

I especially like how they contradict themselves on the solicitation for the ring, stating that was cast directly from an actual, screen-used ring, but then say that it's a completely different size from the movie prop! :rolleyes

 

[Mechinyun]

I want one.