And there are Avatar toys, extended universe books, comic books, clothing. I would say it has made more of an impact than you previously stated.
Indiana Jones 5 officially announced
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How much of that stuff really sells though? The first film was all the rage and then basically forgotten for 14 years. It's going to be another 7 years from what I heard before the next film is released? Despite the box office numbers, I don't think Avatar has the legs that Indiana Jones or Star Wars does. For all of the popularity of Indiana Jones even it has had a very rocky history with merchandise sales. The 2008 line for Crystal Skull was on clearance racks for years because retailers couldn't get rid of the stuff and from what I can tell only now goes for a bit more money on ebay, likely due to the release of Indy 5.
I know of a number of Indy collectors who are trying to offload their Dial of Destiny merch before the film is released on the 30th because they sense the value is going to plummet and they'll be stuck with it for God knows how long before they can get rid of it without losing a ton of money. Like Crystal Skull, or The Phantom Menace before that, people eagerly buy product in anticipation of the new movie and when the reception is mixed the products languish in the bargain bin for years.
I don't know a single person who collects Avatar merchandise, nor do I see any fan groups or have I even heard people discussing it until late last year when the release date for part 2 was closing in. That's not to say they don't exist, but I think people overestimate the long term impact of those movies and make it out to be more than it was.
I know of a number of Indy collectors who are trying to offload their Dial of Destiny merch before the film is released on the 30th because they sense the value is going to plummet and they'll be stuck with it for God knows how long before they can get rid of it without losing a ton of money. Like Crystal Skull, or The Phantom Menace before that, people eagerly buy product in anticipation of the new movie and when the reception is mixed the products languish in the bargain bin for years.
I don't know a single person who collects Avatar merchandise, nor do I see any fan groups or have I even heard people discussing it until late last year when the release date for part 2 was closing in. That's not to say they don't exist, but I think people overestimate the long term impact of those movies and make it out to be more than it was.
Interesting. Perhaps it’s a lack of awareness that these items even exist that goes to the point I am expressing…
CT1138
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Actually, it's only 2 years to Avatar 3. Disney pushed it back from December 2024 to December 2025 due to the writer's strike.
But more to the point about merchandising, let's face it: if we're measuring a movie's cultural impact by merchandising sales, I'd say there's very few movies these days that have cultural impact that I know people here would disagree over the sentiment. Indiana Jones didn't have action figures on the shelf until Dial of Destiny came out. And I mean OT action figures, not just from from the most recent movie. Despite that, I'd think we'd both agree Indiana Jones is a culturally significant movie series.
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Odd thing to blame it on that, when they've already finished filming.
Ever seen a Kennedy-era Lucasfilm movie? The script writing process begins after principal photography wraps.
VanPersie
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Odd how studios treating you and others as idiots is bad, but you feel quite steady on that mighty steed to call others dumb… The double standard is a perfect example of the issues that get talked about a lot in these threads.
How many of those that watched Avatar, also paid to watch your example of Top Gun…. It’s okay, I know you don’t know the answer. Presumably they’re dumb for watching Avatar but not dumb for watching Top Gun. Mighty confusing stance to take really.
joberg
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jts1031
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My take away is that twice now, Harrison Ford has survived the freezing process.I don't know about Frigidaire...but my old Philco fridge is way better
Not to mention re-shooting 40-79% of the film.
Still have not made up my mind whether or not to go see it.
joberg
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Lots of directors/actors/studios have Web accounts (Twitter/Instagram...etc) So the toxicity is raw and immediate. Not like the olden days
joberg
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Right you are and us, useful idiots, have to vote with our wallet! But, sometimes, you get a McDonald burger instead of a fantastic meal at "Nubo"...because for X reasons, you're game for it and F it; I need some kind of a change of mind with a so-so movie
Cephus
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Plus the fact that most of them don't have a filter these days so any stupid thing that comes to mind gets posted without considering how it might have an adverse effect on their career.Lots of directors/actors/studios have Web accounts (Twitter/Instagram...etc) So the toxicity is raw and immediate. Not like the olden days
Lots of directors/actors/studios have Web accounts (Twitter/Instagram...etc) So the toxicity is raw and immediate. Not like the olden days
Social media stripped the veneer off of the Hollywood machine. Actors/producers/writers now constantly reveal just how stupid, morally questionable, narcissistic, hypocritical, opportunistic, and greedy they actually are.
Lightning
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My refrigerator is a 1949 GE, built like a tankI don't know about Frigidaire...but my old Philco fridge is way better
Cephus
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Is Indy in it?
Not to mention re-shooting 40-79% of the film.
Still have not made up my mind whether or not to go see it.
Here's a happy medium: grab an early lunch at somewhere you KNOW you enjoy (it would be a local sushi place for me), and then go see it at a matinee, where you're not paying the post 3:00pm increased $$$ ticket price. OR, see the matinee and THEN go for an early dinner at your restaurant du jour. Either way, try to avoid the $6 Coke and the $10 popcorn and $5 M&Ms at the theater; use that $$ for your meal instead. Take a friend or significant other and you'll have something to discuss either way.
Not sure if EVERY-where has it, but many cities have discount theaters where a film will be shown once it has completed it first theatrical run, often at a discounted ticket. If you wait a month or so, Indy 5 should be there.
Don't think of it as "I'm not giving Disney/Lucasfilm my $$ for this pile of crap." Knowing the the local theater overall gets ~ 50% of the ticket sales (and all of the concession sales), think of it as: "I'm on assignment to critique this new Indy Adventure and I'm going to game the system to see it for the cheapest price legally possible." and just have fun with it.
...or not.
...and don't forget outright criminal.
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