ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/him?

[Zombie_61]

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...what those 2 were able to do requires serious dedication (and steroids).

Dedication, steroids, supplements, HGH, the money to afford a nutritionist who can tailor every meal to their specific needs, and careers that allow them (and pretty much necessitate) the workout time they need to create their physiques.

 

[The Wook]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Dedication, steroids, supplements, HGH, the money to afford a nutritionist who can tailor every meal to their specific needs, and careers that allow them (and pretty much necessitate) the workout time they need to create their physiques.

Arnold had an amazing physique as a teen in Austria, long before he had the kind of money and career you speak of.

HITLIKE ? Arnold Schwarzenegger at 18 years old

His success is mostly from dedication, genetics, and yes, to some extent (but probably not as a teen), PEDs.

The Wook

 

[robstyle]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Before I got hit with ulcerative colitis at age 20 (spent my 21'st b-day on my death bed) I used to work out twice a day and had 20" arms and truck like shoulders. Its not difficult to gain mass pending genetics. Being part Native American and German myself, duh. Once you figure out what does and doesnt work for you, its simple.

While working for CDF we regularly had young guys come in with no mass but great stamina. One guy in particular ended up, within a year, built like a tank. It was crazy. We didnt follow any special diets or such. Body building is another story all together though. Its a full time job. This is why many wrestlers go through spurts as the work schedule combined with the physical maintenance routine plus travel exhausts them.

 

[The Wook]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Before I got hit with ulcerative colitis at age 20 (spent my 21'st b-day on my death bed) I used to work out twice a day and had 20" arms and truck like shoulders. Its not difficult to gain mass pending genetics. Being part Native American and German myself, duh. Once you figure out what does and doesnt work for you, its simple.

At 6' 2", Style, you must've been an imposing figure. What did you weigh at your peak muscle mass?

The Wook

 

[Zombie_61]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Arnold had an amazing physique as a teen in Austria, long before he had the kind of money and career you speak of.

HITLIKE ? Arnold Schwarzenegger at 18 years old

His success is mostly from dedication, genetics, and yes, to some extent (but probably not as a teen), PEDs.

The Wook

True. But after he'd retired from professional bodybuilding he did admit to steroid use while he was competing, so his peak physique wasn't achieved through 100% natural means.

To be clear, I'm not mentioning this solely for the purpose of being intentionally accusatory. And, despite his relatively ineffective career as Governor of the state in which I live, I'm still a fan. When I started weight training in the early 80s to get into better shape, his first autobiography was a great source of inspiration and motivation. I'm merely pointing out the fact that even Arnold Schwarzenegger, perhaps the greatest bodybuilder in the history of the sport, had additional "help" to reach his goals.

 

[Mektar]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

No pro bodybuilder out there could have achieved their peak physique 100% natural.

Also when he admitted its not like it was a big secret. Atleast in his period It still looked good while now its terrible.

 

[The Wook]

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True. But after he'd retired from professional bodybuilding he did admit to steroid use while he was competing, so his peak physique wasn't achieved through 100% natural means.

To be clear, I'm not mentioning this solely for the purpose of being intentionally accusatory. And, despite his relatively ineffective career as Governor of the state in which I live, I'm still a fan. When I started weight training in the early 80s to get into better shape, his first autobiography was a great source of inspiration and motivation. I'm merely pointing out the fact that even Arnold Schwarzenegger, perhaps the greatest bodybuilder in the history of the sport, had additional "help" to reach his goals.

Sure, no quarrel there. My only point, to third3ye, was that it really only takes dedication and decent genetics to get over 200 lbs. with low bodyfat. As long as you're not too short, that is. One doesn't need that other stuff you mentioned. To go pro as a bodybuilder, or get big and shredded as a Hollywood action star, and to maintain such a physique into one's 30s, yes, many of those other things will be part of the formula for success. But the average Joe trying to reach 200 lbs. with low bodyfat doesn't need anything more than dedication and decent genetics.

The Wook

 

[robstyle]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Wook, I was over 235 at my peak but solid muscle at the time. For an idea of what our regular gear and work routine entailed, gear was near 80 pounds and we hiked mountains while cutting fire lines by hand wide enough to drive vehicles through and we did it in record time on the norm.
235 was the final weigh in before becoming noticeably ill dropping weight at a rapid pace. Within six weeks I was at 138 pounds, hair and teeth fell out, internal organs shutting down, cartilage eaten away... Ulcerative Colitis aint no joke and quack doctors shouldnt treat it that way.


Getting back to Arnold, dont anyone forget the guy is well into senior citizen age and started acting in the 1960's. How many people his age can stand up from the prone position on the ground much less lift weights and exercise WITHOUT all the prior strain and stress put onto their body. Stallone is the other great example here. The height thing again is about an image in pop culture. There is expectations based on what we see on film vs harsh reality. To bring that into perspective when I spent lots of time with John Candy on Delirious every time the guy was across the room it was stunning how tall he was being such a massive guy. He was over 6'3" and would slouch and contort to hide it. He was very weight conscious and used comedy as an outlet to deal with it.

If you guys want to talk tiny yet icon actors, id love to see a slap fight between Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise.

 

[Betamin]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Arnold now wears a flower on his lapel and when a taller person comes up for a photo, he says "Heah, smell dis flowa. (person leans over) QUICK!! TAKE DA PIKCHA!! DO IT! DO IT NOW!"

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Arnold now wears a flower on his lapel and when a taller person comes up for a photo, he says "Heah, smell dis flowa. (person leans over) QUICK!! TAKE DA PIKCHA!! DO IT! DO IT NOW!"

lol:lol

 

[The Wook]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Wook, I was over 235 at my peak but solid muscle at the time. For an idea of what our regular gear and work routine entailed, gear was near 80 pounds and we hiked mountains while cutting fire lines by hand wide enough to drive vehicles through and we did it in record time on the norm.
235 was the final weigh in before becoming noticeably ill dropping weight at a rapid pace. Within six weeks I was at 138 pounds, hair and teeth fell out, internal organs shutting down, cartilage eaten away... Ulcerative Colitis aint no joke and quack doctors shouldnt treat it that way.


Getting back to Arnold, dont anyone forget the guy is well into senior citizen age and started acting in the 1960's. How many people his age can stand up from the prone position on the ground much less lift weights and exercise WITHOUT all the prior strain and stress put onto their body. Stallone is the other great example here. The height thing again is about an image in pop culture. There is expectations based on what we see on film vs harsh reality. To bring that into perspective when I spent lots of time with John Candy on Delirious every time the guy was across the room it was stunning how tall he was being such a massive guy. He was over 6'3" and would slouch and contort to hide it. He was very weight conscious and used comedy as an outlet to deal with it.

If you guys want to talk tiny yet icon actors, id love to see a slap fight between Johnny Depp and Tom Cruise.

And to think, my biggest worry at 21 was an already beginning to recede hairline. Well, Style, one would never know you flirted with Death at 21, looking at you now.

So yeah, you were 6'2" and over 235 lbs. with no bodyfat. That's what Arnie was supposed to have been in his prime.

The Wook

 

[Zombie_61]

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Sure, no quarrel there. My only point, to third3ye, was that it really only takes dedication and decent genetics to get over 200 lbs. with low bodyfat. As long as you're not too short, that is. One doesn't need that other stuff you mentioned. To go pro as a bodybuilder, or get big and shredded as a Hollywood action star, and to maintain such a physique into one's 30s, yes, many of those other things will be part of the formula for success. But the average Joe trying to reach 200 lbs. with low bodyfat doesn't need anything more than dedication and decent genetics.

The Wook

When you put it that way, we're in complete agreement.

 

[robstyle]

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Wook, look up Roland Kickinger. He is everything your memories of Arnold on film were in real life. The guy is a giant, an honest 6' 4".

 

[wannab]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

I'm just shy of 6'4'', and when I met him I sized him up while shaking his hand and chatting, I pegged him at around 6'1'' maaaaaybe 6'2''. Granted he had some nice shoes with heels and I was wearing flats so he could be shorter. He did seem much smaller overall than what I had expected -- he wore a VERY nice suit though.

Now Hulk Hogan on the other hand, when I met him all I could think was man this dude is frickin' huge!


Doug

 

[BenCozine]

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My bro is a police officer who was part of a security detail for Arnold a couple of years back. At 5' 9", he said that Arnold was only BARELY taller than he was. Weirdly, he said the most striking thing about him was the size of his hands. He said when he shook hands with him his fingers reminded him of bananas. :lol

In related news, I'm between 6' 3" - 6' 4", & during the recent Mega-Con, I walked right past (we almost made contact) Lou Ferrigno, who is purported to be 6' 4", & I was looking WELL over the top of his high-80s-hair-do.

I'll bet they ALL exaggerated back in the dizzay.

I am 6'1'' exactly and met Lou several times in the late 1990's, he was taller then I but only by an inch or two. I would say he was easily 6'3'' back in the 1970's and probably 6'2 1/2'' now as an older man.

 

[The Wook]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

I am 6'1'' exactly and met Lou several times in the late 1990's, he was taller then I but only by an inch or two. I would say he was easily 6'3'' back in the 1970's and probably 6'2 1/2'' now as an older man.

Well that would make Arnold about 6'0" in his prime.

The Wook

 

[Zombie_61]

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...He did seem much smaller overall than what I had expected...

When I saw Arnold at a bodybuilding convention in the early 80s I thought the same thing. He was muscular, but not as much as I had expected. During his lecture time onstage he discussed this briefly, and explained it was because of the way he trained--that his muscles only grew to full size when he started flexing them hard. He also said he used this to his advantage when he was still competing, because his competitors would look at him, think the same thing, and get lulled into a false sense of superiority. Even while he was preparing backstage he would do as little as possible to get ready to go onstage. Then, to prove his point, he did a few poses and, even fully dressed (though wearing a short-sleeved shirt), his body suddenly exploded. You could almost hear everyone in the audience thinking, "Oh, there's the Arnold we were expecting to see." :lol

 

[nitrox]

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I hope Tom Cruise Isn't adding inches to his height. Lol

 

[Zombie_61]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

If he is, he's not fooling anybody.

 

[BenCozine]

Re: ISO: Photographic evidence of ARNOLD'S height! Who here has gotten their pic w/

Well that would make Arnold about 6'0" in his prime.

The Wook

I can't say since I never met him. My dad is/was 6' back in his prime and met Arnold back in the late 70's, he said Arnold was about his height, possibly a bit shorter. I would guess arnold was 5'11'' to 6' back when he was a 20-40 year old guy.