My Journey Through Bond
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Which is a bad rip-off of Bond. Vicious circle. :lol
And it doesn't stop there. The director of Die Another Day, Lee Tamahori, would later go to direct the xXx sequel. This is one sick twisted cycle.
I'll be back.
That's it. No more waiting around. The memory of watching "A View to a Kill" is almost gone, so I'm going to strike it while it's still warm.
This movie. This.... movie... The only reason why this movie even exists is that they had a plan for a new Bond actor for a new Bond movie, and two months before they were ready to start filming, it all came to a complete stop. United Artist wanted the movie asap with no delays, so the production team decided to start form scratch. They resorted to hiring Roger Moore again even though he was done two movies ago, and went with a story line that lifts many elements from Goldfinger. It was a film no one was enthusiastic about making, and no one was putting any effort into making it.
The most painful example at how this movie showcased no effort in the writing department was the movie's villain Zorin. He's like this literal interpretation of an over the top bad guy without any unique qualities. It's amazing how Zorin is able to come up with so much planning yet still act like the most incompetent villain in the franchise's history. I'd like to think that the whole horse racing scene was where the real "Just shoot him!" comedy routine came from, because everything that Zorin does in trying to kill Bond in this race is just mind bogglingly stupid.
To make matters worse, the writers thought they needed to make Zorin even more evil by having a scene in the mine where he simply guns down every single mine worker with a machine gun.... for no freaking reason. It's so gratuitous and so unsettling that it destroys what ever fun you could have had in the last act. You could splice in audio from the final shootout in Scarface into this scene and you wouldn't need to change much.
Speaking of unsettling, let's most on to Mayday.... You know what? Let's MOVE ON from Mayday.
In regards to Roger Moore's age? Yeah, he's way too old for Bond, but I don't really care. Old guys playing the good guys in action movies I'm ok with. The film probably could have worked better if the story reflected some of his age a bit better. Unfortunately, this movie is written like Bond is in his absolute prime, with his ski boarding in the teaser and hooking up with not one, not two, but FOUR WOMEN throughout the course of the film. Bond was never that lucky in the previous movies. One element I liked in Octopussy was how the main Bond Girl was played by Maud Adams, an actress who I thought was at the right age for the part when starring opposite Roger Moore. Not the case with AVTAK when they casted Tanya Roberts for the role. She may be 10 years younger than Maud Adams, but her voice and size makes her appear a lot younger. And Roger Moore was kind to point out in his own commentary that he needed to stop playing Bond after finding out he was actually older than Tanya's mother.
There are only three things about A View to a Kill that I can safely say was actually enjoyable.
1. John Barry's score. He can make even the worst Bond movies sound like works of art. The fight on the San Francisco bridge is a highlight.
2. Patrick Macnee. If not for his fun to watch performance, I would not have watched this film again.
3. THIS. Seriously, this is brilliant.
This movie. This.... movie... The only reason why this movie even exists is that they had a plan for a new Bond actor for a new Bond movie, and two months before they were ready to start filming, it all came to a complete stop. United Artist wanted the movie asap with no delays, so the production team decided to start form scratch. They resorted to hiring Roger Moore again even though he was done two movies ago, and went with a story line that lifts many elements from Goldfinger. It was a film no one was enthusiastic about making, and no one was putting any effort into making it.
The most painful example at how this movie showcased no effort in the writing department was the movie's villain Zorin. He's like this literal interpretation of an over the top bad guy without any unique qualities. It's amazing how Zorin is able to come up with so much planning yet still act like the most incompetent villain in the franchise's history. I'd like to think that the whole horse racing scene was where the real "Just shoot him!" comedy routine came from, because everything that Zorin does in trying to kill Bond in this race is just mind bogglingly stupid.
To make matters worse, the writers thought they needed to make Zorin even more evil by having a scene in the mine where he simply guns down every single mine worker with a machine gun.... for no freaking reason. It's so gratuitous and so unsettling that it destroys what ever fun you could have had in the last act. You could splice in audio from the final shootout in Scarface into this scene and you wouldn't need to change much.
Speaking of unsettling, let's most on to Mayday.... You know what? Let's MOVE ON from Mayday.
In regards to Roger Moore's age? Yeah, he's way too old for Bond, but I don't really care. Old guys playing the good guys in action movies I'm ok with. The film probably could have worked better if the story reflected some of his age a bit better. Unfortunately, this movie is written like Bond is in his absolute prime, with his ski boarding in the teaser and hooking up with not one, not two, but FOUR WOMEN throughout the course of the film. Bond was never that lucky in the previous movies. One element I liked in Octopussy was how the main Bond Girl was played by Maud Adams, an actress who I thought was at the right age for the part when starring opposite Roger Moore. Not the case with AVTAK when they casted Tanya Roberts for the role. She may be 10 years younger than Maud Adams, but her voice and size makes her appear a lot younger. And Roger Moore was kind to point out in his own commentary that he needed to stop playing Bond after finding out he was actually older than Tanya's mother.
There are only three things about A View to a Kill that I can safely say was actually enjoyable.
1. John Barry's score. He can make even the worst Bond movies sound like works of art. The fight on the San Francisco bridge is a highlight.
2. Patrick Macnee. If not for his fun to watch performance, I would not have watched this film again.
3. THIS. Seriously, this is brilliant.
Umm...This ain't yo thread so if ya can't wait start your own. Ya feel me? The mrs is working tomorrow night so I hope to finish it then.
So I posted a bit about a Bond movie that you're still on. It's just an entertainment thread for everyone to have a good time man. It didn't go past any Bond film that you've mentioned.
You just posted a giant thread on a film I have yet to finish. Read my first post in the thread. I've asked that we keep the discussion to the ones I have seen so as to avoid spoilers. Again, if you can't respect my wishes, please start your own thread.
Having movies I've paid for but have yet to get a chance to watch ruined for me is not my idea of a good time.
Having movies I've paid for but have yet to get a chance to watch ruined for me is not my idea of a good time.
What are you talking about? You used your chance to watch it weeks ago and you chose not to finish it. I just figured that after all that time and after so many other users have posted spoilers for movies that come after AVTAK that you just didn't mind anymore.
My chance? I only get one huh? Darn. What will I do now? I know. Abandon the thread. Man overboard...
lol. Yeah, this is getting a bit ridiculous. Let's just relax and have a good time. I haven't posted about The Living Daylights yet and that's my favorite Bond movie. So get back in the game and don't keep us waiting!
PrimoOptimoso
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I'm loving reading this thread - it's giving me memories of watching Bond films as a kid - I was born in the 70s so I didn't see most of them first-run, but I have seen nearly all of them. Sadly, the ones I've seen the most frequently (from channel-surfing and stopping on Bond) are Moonraker and NSNA. I never did get to see OHMSS, but my wife loves that one so I assume I'll see it before too long.
FWIW, I know Connery is the classic, but I think my favorite Bond is Brosnan. Ever since my childhood when he was on TV as Remington Steele, I knew that guy was destined to be James Bond. I liked every single Brosnan movie, even DAD which I liked better than TWINE if I remember right.
FWIW, I know Connery is the classic, but I think my favorite Bond is Brosnan. Ever since my childhood when he was on TV as Remington Steele, I knew that guy was destined to be James Bond. I liked every single Brosnan movie, even DAD which I liked better than TWINE if I remember right.
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